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septemberWaves wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 5:14 pm

I just thought I'd share the compact setup I'm using for basic electronic boards. Easily tileable; six of the arrays (two are pictured) will almost fill one side of a grey belt; simple modifications to the output inserters to drop on the opposite side of the belt allows a (nearly) full output belt with twelve arrays. If anyone wants the blueprint I will be happy to provide it. Obviously this only covers the end stage of the process; production for the intermediates used in this array is not nearly so neat (currently).

Apologies if this is not the correct place to share such setups.

I'm sorry but when I see wires on belts something scream "waste of belts" and I run away
I'm usually using 5 electronic making machines in pyramid shape with output on sides directed to top/bottom. Don't have screenshot on hand atm.

bobingabout wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 9:06 pm Anyway... update time.


Warfare 0.17.5:
updated bob-power-armor-3 prerequisites for 0.17.35 changes

Tech 0.17.3:
updated personal-roboport-equipment-2 for 0.17.35 changes

MCI 0.17.4:
Updated for 0.17.35 player -> character changes

Assembly 0.17.4:
Updated for 0.17.35 player -> character changes

electronics 0.17.4:
Updated for 0.17.35 player -> character changes

there's also a related change to classes... but while these versions WILL work in older versions of the game, Classes will not. and the game isn't smart enough to not try to install it.

0.17.35???? I do not see it on the release forums nor through Steam. Are you ahead of the curve?

And since I do not yet know, what are these "0.17.35 player -> character changes"?

RocketManChronicles wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 10:51 pm 0.17.35???? I do not see it on the release forums nor through Steam. Are you ahead of the curve?

And since I do not yet know, what are these "0.17.35 player -> character changes"?

Yes, I'm ahead: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=70188&p=426849#p426646
Estimated release date: Tomorrow.

Classes mod also needs a player->character update, which I've done, but there was no way to do it and be compatible with older versions of the game, so I'm not releasing it until 0.17.35 is out.

orzelek wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 10:22 pm I'm sorry but when I see wires on belts something scream "waste of belts" and I run away
I'm usually using 5 electronic making machines in pyramid shape with output on sides directed to top/bottom. Don't have screenshot on hand atm.

I designed the array so that I can use regular inserters. I have yet to unlock fast inserters, or more complicated inserter positions, or even better power poles (I did not have tier 2 science pack production when I made the array), and this was the best system I could find that would produce maximum output immediately without having to upgrade inserters. The half-belt of tinned wire is all that is needed (it would take a full belt to produce a full belt output, but I didn't need that for a factory that I'll tear down and replace as soon as I upgrade my ore processing and build some early construction bots), and I'll use a similar system later when I have tin wire coils on the main bus. I would never put wires on a belt bus (except as wire coils, since those are more densely packed than plates); they're crafted on-site, just not in the screenshot.

septemberWaves wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 5:14 pm

I just thought I'd share the compact setup I'm using for basic electronic boards. Easily tileable; six of the arrays (two are pictured) will almost fill one side of a grey belt; simple modifications to the output inserters to drop on the opposite side of the belt allows a (nearly) full output belt with twelve arrays. If anyone wants the blueprint I will be happy to provide it. Obviously this only covers the end stage of the process; production for the intermediates used in this array is not nearly so neat (currently).

Apologies if this is not the correct place to share such setups.

I do it this way. A 90° inserter is as fast a two with 180°.

septemberWaves wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 5:14 pm

I just thought I'd share the compact setup I'm using for basic electronic boards. Easily tileable; six of the arrays (two are pictured) will almost fill one side of a grey belt; simple modifications to the output inserters to drop on the opposite side of the belt allows a (nearly) full output belt with twelve arrays. If anyone wants the blueprint I will be happy to provide it. Obviously this only covers the end stage of the process; production for the intermediates used in this array is not nearly so neat (currently).

Apologies if this is not the correct place to share such setups.

Is there any point in putting basic electronic boards on a belt? Unless I'm mistaken (or my additional mods confuse me with changed names and graphics) there only use for basic electronic boards is to make the green electronic boards. With 2 basic electronic board assemblers per electronic board assembler.

Well, I cant of course speak for all mod combinations, but in seablock at least you use basic electronic boards for damn near everything.

mrvn wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 2:11 pm

septemberWaves wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 5:14 pm

I just thought I'd share the compact setup I'm using for basic electronic boards. Easily tileable; six of the arrays (two are pictured) will almost fill one side of a grey belt; simple modifications to the output inserters to drop on the opposite side of the belt allows a (nearly) full output belt with twelve arrays. If anyone wants the blueprint I will be happy to provide it. Obviously this only covers the end stage of the process; production for the intermediates used in this array is not nearly so neat (currently).

Apologies if this is not the correct place to share such setups.

Is there any point in putting basic electronic boards on a belt? Unless I'm mistaken (or my additional mods confuse me with changed names and graphics) there only use for basic electronic boards is to make the green electronic boards. With 2 basic electronic board assemblers per electronic board assembler.

in bob's mods, the boards themselves with no components on are T0 electronics, used for all the stuff that needs electronics before the first electronics research.

bobingabout wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 2:56 pm

mrvn wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 2:11 pm

septemberWaves wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 5:14 pm
I just thought I'd share the compact setup I'm using for basic electronic boards. Easily tileable; six of the arrays (two are pictured) will almost fill one side of a grey belt; simple modifications to the output inserters to drop on the opposite side of the belt allows a (nearly) full output belt with twelve arrays. If anyone wants the blueprint I will be happy to provide it. Obviously this only covers the end stage of the process; production for the intermediates used in this array is not nearly so neat (currently).

Apologies if this is not the correct place to share such setups.

Is there any point in putting basic electronic boards on a belt? Unless I'm mistaken (or my additional mods confuse me with changed names and graphics) there only use for basic electronic boards is to make the green electronic boards. With 2 basic electronic board assemblers per electronic board assembler.

in bob's mods, the boards themselves with no components on are T0 electronics, used for all the stuff that needs electronics before the first electronics research.

Yes, I need the boards without resistors for lots of stuff. But with resistors I only see the green circuit boards as consumer in my SeaBlock game.

Classes 0.17.5:
Updated for 0.17.35 player -> character changes

mrvn wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 3:18 pm

bobingabout wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 2:56 pm

mrvn wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 2:11 pm Is there any point in putting basic electronic boards on a belt? Unless I'm mistaken (or my additional mods confuse me with changed names and graphics) there only use for basic electronic boards is to make the green electronic boards. With 2 basic electronic board assemblers per electronic board assembler.

in bob's mods, the boards themselves with no components on are T0 electronics, used for all the stuff that needs electronics before the first electronics research.

Yes, I need the boards without resistors for lots of stuff. But with resistors I only see the green circuit boards as consumer in my SeaBlock game.

That's because the Sea Block pack contains the Circuit Processing mod, https://mods.factorio.com/mod/CircuitProcessing, on top of Bob's mods.

Is there any way to force inserters to only be adjustable to long range if they're actually long inserters? Feels kind of broken being able to build regular and fast inserters and having them act as long ones as well.

lamoxd wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:15 pm Is there any way to force inserters to only be adjustable to long range if they're actually long inserters? Feels kind of broken being able to build regular and fast inserters and having them act as long ones as well.

There is if you manually add them to the forbidden list, which can be done via command line. There's no command to remove something from the forbidden list after it's added.

The main way it was designed to allow anything to be edited was because many of these used to be variants in my logistics mod. Most of those options were removed as being able to edit the positions of any inserter was easier on everyone than having as many as 8 different versions of each tier of inserter.

Bob released a new mod. And it's not about tea!

https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Bobingabout/bobequipment

bobingabout wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 12:18 am Bob released a new mod. And it's not about tea!

https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Bobingabout/bobequipment

Is that the equipment from the warfare mod? Or did you create some new?

ukezi wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 5:34 pm

bobingabout wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 12:18 am Bob released a new mod. And it's not about tea!

https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Bobingabout/bobequipment

Is that the equipment from the warfare mod? Or did you create some new?

It's all the equipment from warfare, which I plan to remove in the next warfare update, plus roboport equipment.

bobingabout wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 7:39 pm

ukezi wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 5:34 pm

bobingabout wrote: Sun May 05, 2019 12:18 am Bob released a new mod. And it's not about tea!

https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Bobingabout/bobequipment

Is that the equipment from the warfare mod? Or did you create some new?

It's all the equipment from warfare, which I plan to remove in the next warfare update, plus roboport equipment.

Good to know! Downloading immediately!

Vehicle equipment 0.17.2
Added allow_robot_dispatch_in_automatic_mode to cargo wagons
Added 4 tiers of roboport and modular roboports for vehicles.

I think bobequipment has an undocumented (and possibly unintentional) dependency on bobwarfare: If I enable bobwarfare, the error goes away.

DaleStan wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 7:38 pm I think bobequipment has an undocumented (and possibly unintentional) dependency on bobwarfare:

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Failed to load mods: Error in assignID, entity with name 'bob-laser-beam-sapphire' does not exist.

Source: personal-laser-defense-equipment-2 (active-defense-equipment).

Mods to be disabled:
⬢ bobequipment

If I enable bobwarfare, the error goes away.

Thanks for the report. I obviously missed moving certain things over.