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Re: Reading fluid levels of pipes, liquids shouldn't behave according to the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:59 pm
by BrainGamer_
I don't see where the FFF mentions the capability to connect circuit wires to pipes to read the fill level? I guess you'd have to abuse storage tanks for this still?
Re: Reading fluid levels of pipes, liquids shouldn't behave according to the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:03 pm
by Koub
My reasoning was that with the way pipes and tanks will be merged into segments, the issue described by OP should disappear, Am I wrong ?
Re: Reading fluid levels of pipes, liquids shouldn't behave according to the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:37 pm
by BrainGamer_
Koub wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:03 pm
My reasoning was that with the way pipes and tanks will be merged into segments, the issue described by OP should disappear, Am I wrong ?
The issue described by the initial OP probably disappears yeah, but the other merged suggestion is not really. Being able to connect wires to a tank that will now output the contents of the entire segment vs directly connecting to a pipe which would now output the same is not identical imo (+ the later request to also be able to read the fluids temperature).
Re: Reading fluid levels of pipes, liquids shouldn't behave according to the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:42 pm
by Koub
BrainGamer_ wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 3:37 pm
Being able to connect wires to a tank that will now output the contents of the entire segment vs directly connecting to a pipe which would now output the same is not identical imo (+ the later request to also be able to read the fluids temperature).
Indeed, but by reading the level of a tank, I can infer the level of any pipe on the same segment, as all the segment's elements will always be kept at the same level.
With current numbers :
- a tank at 25k means all the pipes in the same segment are at 100
- a tank at 12.5k means all the pipes in the same segment are at 50
- a tank at 10k means all the pipes in the same segment are at 10/25x100=40
I think what we need is to measure how full a segment is.
Concerning the temperature, I agree that won't help, but I'd rather have it in a dedicated thread. BTW there are already quite a few suggestions for similar things, like temperature sensors for heat pipes, heat exchangers,...
Re: Reading fluid levels of pipes, liquids shouldn't behave according to the uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:05 pm
by zig1000
> I think what we need is to measure how full a segment is.
Any update on this, in particular reading pipes? This would help immensely with meta-automating fluids. Adding a fluid tank to segments is usually extremely undesirable because it enormously increases their volume, and this effectively kills machine fill rate since the system becomes practically empty.
Meta-automating solids doesn't have this issue as every entity in their network can be read, and this asymmetry makes things really inelegant.
EDIT: Since I realized this topic is in 'implemented', created a dedicated thread:
viewtopic.php?t=118101