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BlueTemplar wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:23 pm "I want to make suggestions, but I got links to mods!! "

varundevan wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:26 pm i don't use mods ..
i like to play the original ..

varundevan wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:59 am

BlueTemplar wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:23 pm "I want to make suggestions, but I got links to mods!! "

ok , i see your point
please suggest a mod which gives car and tank teh mecanum wheels ..

Koub wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:40 am Also, not sure what Mechanum is, but what's the difference between this suggestion and this one ?

darkfrei wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:32 am

varundevan wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:59 am

BlueTemplar wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:23 pm "I want to make suggestions, but I got links to mods!! "

ok , i see your point
please suggest a mod which gives car and tank teh mecanum wheels ..

I can see only one way: change player's character to the car. Yes, it's the way how Fallout's underground subway works.

1. Player has inventory and weapons, may also have a grid (with modular/power armor). Cars have inventory, may have weapons (your Crawler, for example, doesn't) and grid (added by a mod like Vehicle Grid). When a player's driving_state changes (enter/leave vehicle), you'd need to keep a list of inventories, grids, and equipped weapons of player and vehicle, and switch between them. That's a lot to keep track of, and it's very likely this will introduce new bugs.
2. Vehicles based on the "car" prototype may have driver and passenger; they also allow to turn weapons control to either driver or passenger. If one player was the vehicle, he'd assume the role of driver -- but how would you add a passenger? Removing the passenger's character and changing the passenger's player position may work. In case the vehicle is hit so strong that the vehicle is destroyed and its occupants are killed, you'd have to restore the corpse of the passenger's character. That's possible, but again there's a big potential to introduce bugs.
3. I usually use the word "vehicle" instead of "car" because things like hovercrafts, boats, planes etc. are also based on the "car" prototype. A boat or a plane may "drive" over tiles that the player can't move on (water, cliffs). Before replacing the vehicle with the player, you'd have to check that their collision masks match. That's some more overhead.
4. Mod interaction: In my mod GCKI, players are allowed to "lock" a vehicle (making it non-active/non-operable/non-minable), ejecting all occupants in the process. They also can summon a vehicle (in effect, teleporting it close to them). This would lead to unexpected results if the vehicle had been replaced with the player. Either your mod would have to keep player and vehicle position in sync so other mods will work in spite of the replaced entities, or you'd require mods that interact with vehicles to do a lot of overhead work. The easy way out would be conflicts against the other mods, but that's obviously not a good option for the players.

varundevan wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:41 am I would suggest a all directional movement car with MECANUM WHEELS that can move how a player moves.

eradicator wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:19 pm

varundevan wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:41 am I would suggest a all directional movement car with MECANUM WHEELS that can move how a player moves.

Problem with that is that mecanum wheeled vehicles *don't* move like the player. The player has infinite rotation speed and can only walk "forward". For an MWV the exiting WASD (four keys) input is insufficent. Does "D" mean go right? or rotate right? or drive right but backwards? If your answer is "just instantly rotate the car" then the car becomes just a weird player skin that can only move in 8 directions.

Laramy65 wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:07 am I'm honestly surprised the about the positive feedback this idea is getting. For me this would kill the car. It's just so fun

seltha wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:09 am 100% with you on that, the car is like driving in a good old 2D 8-bit games, brings back great memories from my childhood (and possibly shows my age)... if you want fast WASD movement, put some legs in your power armor!

Olacken wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:29 pm

seltha wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:09 am 100% with you on that, the car is like driving in a good old 2D 8-bit games, brings back great memories from my childhood (and possibly shows my age)... if you want fast WASD movement, put some legs in your power armor!

How do I put my 20 roboport in my suit If use legs?
Ok i'm a little bit exagerating I only use 16 roboports

Laramy65 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:36 pm have a second power armor in your inventory. they're quite quick to switch out when you need to

varundevan wrote: Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:41 am Hi,
The navigation in car is super clunky to drive since especially turning left and right is changes with direction of movement.
In my opinion the current driving method is not enjoyable.

Moo Rhy wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:03 pm Main problem for me why playerlike movement is not applicable for vehicles is that vehicles have momentum but the player not. You can instantly change direction and stop. A vehicle behaves different. It will continue going in its current direction until friction stops it or a force changes its direction. When you drive to the left at 100 km/h but decide you want to drive to the right you have to make either a big turn or brake, stop and drive backwards. How would you realise this with a direct control (W = north, D = east ...)? No momentum for vehicles? Does it mean the car will instantly boost to maximum speed and stop when you release all buttons?

I know it is a bit weird that vehicles behave differently. You have to set yourself into the car and change your perspective. It is like driving a RC car in the real world. When the car is coming towards you and you want it to go left you need to steer right.