Requia wrote:Thought, instead of straight up reducing steel from 5 to 2 iron plates leave the default recipe in, and add a chemical furnace recipe for charcoal or coke necessary to get the 2 iron to 1 steel recipe.
Bob's advanced science pack and mk2 lab is required for the last rocket speed tech which is required for the rocket silo tech. But yeah, it would be nice if the rocket construction required more bobs stuff. The low density structures are made mostly of steel and copper;. Aluminium and/or titanium would be much better materials for building rockets, lighter and stronger.iamwyza wrote:I haven't started testing the revamp mod yet, so if this is already part of it, I apologize.
I just "finished" probably my 3rd or 4th playthrough of Bob's. One thing I've noticed is that launching the rocket is too easy with Bob's. It doesn't really require most of the highest level stuff. I think you can do it without blue science (or any of the special alien sciences), without Nitonol or tungsten. I think that building and launching the rocket/satellite should include needing those end game components.
Just my .02 cents.
While those suggestions above are certainly valid, until they are implemented in the mod's, may I suggest trying the marathon mode (or some combinations of them - there are a few) from Bob's Tweaks?British_Petroleum wrote:Bob's advanced science pack and mk2 lab is required for the last rocket speed tech which is required for the rocket silo tech. But yeah, it would be nice if the rocket construction required more bobs stuff. The low density structures are made mostly of steel and copper;. Aluminium and/or titanium would be much better materials for building rockets, lighter and stronger.iamwyza wrote:I haven't started testing the revamp mod yet, so if this is already part of it, I apologize.
I just "finished" probably my 3rd or 4th playthrough of Bob's. One thing I've noticed is that launching the rocket is too easy with Bob's. It doesn't really require most of the highest level stuff. I think you can do it without blue science (or any of the special alien sciences), without Nitonol or tungsten. I think that building and launching the rocket/satellite should include needing those end game components.
Just my .02 cents.
Good point.steinio wrote:Requia wrote:Thought, instead of straight up reducing steel from 5 to 2 iron plates leave the default recipe in, and add a chemical furnace recipe for charcoal or coke necessary to get the 2 iron to 1 steel recipe.
It's so easy to produce Bob's carbon why not use this?
Rockets are mainly steel. Well, they're mainly fuel, but once you've burned off all the fuel it's mainly steel left behind.British_Petroleum wrote:
Bob's advanced science pack and mk2 lab is required for the last rocket speed tech which is required for the rocket silo tech. But yeah, it would be nice if the rocket construction required more bobs stuff. The low density structures are made mostly of steel and copper;. Aluminium and/or titanium would be much better materials for building rockets, lighter and stronger.
Mainly, perhaps, but Nitinol, titanium, tungsten and tungsten carbide are all used as materials in rockets. (at least according to the interwebs) Now of course I'm suggesting a little more than just "a little" mostly because I want to make those materials in bulk quantities vital to the effort.Requia wrote:Rockets are mainly steel. Well, they're mainly fuel, but once you've burned off all the fuel it's mainly steel left behind.British_Petroleum wrote:
Bob's advanced science pack and mk2 lab is required for the last rocket speed tech which is required for the rocket silo tech. But yeah, it would be nice if the rocket construction required more bobs stuff. The low density structures are made mostly of steel and copper;. Aluminium and/or titanium would be much better materials for building rockets, lighter and stronger.
Yesw please. Give us some real challenge with the rocket againiamwyza wrote:Mainly, perhaps, but Nitinol, titanium, tungsten and tungsten carbide are all used as materials in rockets. (at least according to the interwebs) Now of course I'm suggesting a little more than just "a little" mostly because I want to make those materials in bulk quantities vital to the effort.Requia wrote:Rockets are mainly steel. Well, they're mainly fuel, but once you've burned off all the fuel it's mainly steel left behind.British_Petroleum wrote:
Bob's advanced science pack and mk2 lab is required for the last rocket speed tech which is required for the rocket silo tech. But yeah, it would be nice if the rocket construction required more bobs stuff. The low density structures are made mostly of steel and copper;. Aluminium and/or titanium would be much better materials for building rockets, lighter and stronger.
Similarly the satellite should see an upgrade. For example perhaps it should use at least MK4 radars. (though I'd prefer Mk5) After all you'd want to put the best stuff you got in orbit Similarly I'd like to see it require higher level solar panels/accumulators too.
And I'd love to see rocket fuel move to something else (like LOX + RP1 which is Liquid Oxygen + Refined Petrolium aka Kerosene. We currently don't have either of those, but you could "fake" it with Petroleum Gas + Oxygen, though you'd want to make it a pretty high conversion amount and make it require higher level research since currently rocket fuel is super powerful).
So thinking:
Current Low Density StructureNew Low Density Structure
- 10x Steel
5x Copper
5x PlasticCurrent Rocket = 100x
- 5x Steel
5x Titanium
5x Aluminum
5x Plastic
2x Tungsten Carbide PlateNew Rocket = 100x
- 10x Low Density Structure
10x Rocket Fuel
10x Rocket Control Unit
- 10x Low Density Structure
10x Rocket Fuel
10x Rocket Control Unit
5x Nitinol Bearings
100x Tungsten Bearings
Current SatelliteNew Satellite
- 100x Solar Panel
100x Light Density Structure
100x Accumulator
5x Radar
50x Rocket Fuel
- 100x Solar Panel Mk3
100x Light Density Structure
100x High-Capacity Accumulator Mk3
5x Radar Mk5
50x Rocket Fuel
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/c for _,v in pairs(game.player.force.technologies) do v.researched=false end
So I was kind of trapped...So would I; I find the whole oil/sulfur processing rather confusing with this revamp. So I made a diagram. Feel free to use this for whatever purpose.iamwyza wrote:Whatever the ultimate resolution is. It'd be nice to get some sort of processing tree setup so that we can follow it. I know I like visualizations of stuff, it helps me get inside the complexity of it.
That's why there's more than one oil processing method. you're supposed to use ALL OF THEM, and if you don't want to have to change the recipe manually, build a combination of all of them, and use small pumps like valves with combinational logic to turn each type on/off depending on fluid levels. That's the intended solution.odegroot wrote:I cannot simply scale up without also creating more sulfur dioxide.
i am running latest version as of 6/16/2017It's an error in Angels mods. I was sure he'd released a patch for it, but if you're still experiencing it, it seems not.SilverFox wrote:Im not sure if this is a bug or not .... The mod has been grate and working well, till you reach late game. i have a complete tree to infinite and can not unlock the rocket silo for researching. unpluged every mod and it only opens up the silo tab when i toggle off the revamp mod. please advise me or fix.
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bobmods.lib.tech.add_prerequisite("rocket-silo", "rocket-fuel")
bobmods.lib.tech.remove_recipe_unlock("rocket-silo", "rocket-fuel")
Thanks for the tip. i will post back if it dose not fix it. (no news is good news) but if its not fixed i will post complete mods list. thanks for the prompted response.bobingabout wrote:It's an error in Angels mods. I was sure he'd released a patch for it, but if you're still experiencing it, it seems not.SilverFox wrote:Im not sure if this is a bug or not .... The mod has been grate and working well, till you reach late game. i have a complete tree to infinite and can not unlock the rocket silo for researching. unpluged every mod and it only opens up the silo tab when i toggle off the revamp mod. please advise me or fix.
You can force compatibility with angels mod by removing the following lines from revamp mod prototypes -> rocket-fuel-updates.lua, It's near the bottom of the file.Code: Select all
bobmods.lib.tech.add_prerequisite("rocket-silo", "rocket-fuel") bobmods.lib.tech.remove_recipe_unlock("rocket-silo", "rocket-fuel")
Perhaps. it was a little... hacky.aklesey1 wrote:Balance question about sulfur processing with crude oil
There some strange method, bobingabout, u know....
I can take 200 crude oil and use vanilla method to process it
And i can get 100 oil and get all what i got and plus 20 sulfur.... question - why sulfur has undertaken from void and I at the same time didn't use the additional efforts to receive sulfur
May be i must process 120 crude oil instead of 100 crude oil?
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what-is-it-really-used-for_1.2.5revamp does change the prerequisites. you need to research oil mining before you can research oil processing.EricCoon wrote:Hi,
I have a not researchable recipe -> Oil processing for the basic oil refinery.
It seems that one prerequisite is missing. Deactivating bobs revamp mod made it available again. Reactivating bobs revamp made it bugged again.
I researched it,while bobs revamp was deactivated.