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Re: Allowing reading machine input, output, & trash slots separately, or read fuel without rest of contents

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2026 8:52 pm
by macdjord
mmmPI wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 5:58 am
macdjord wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 9:26 pm That is, in fact, exactly what I wanted and suggested with respect to fuel! Now we just need separate checkboxes for reading inputs, outputs, and trash.
It's actually not needed for any of the use case you mentionned though and there would be no way to read 3 distinct value from only from 2 wires colors , how do you expect a kovarex enrichment to be different if the suggestion is implemented ? Or if one measure the "input" and the "fuel" on 2 different wire, how are you going to read the trash slot on top of that ?
The point isn't to read them separately on different wires - that would be very useful, but making the per-wire ticks apply separately to each input and output rather than to all inputs and all outputs is a separate suggestion. The point is to be able to read one category while not reading the others. For example, smart Kovarex loading would be a lot simpler if I could read how much U235 was in the input slots without also reading how much is in the output slots.

Re: Allowing reading machine input, output, & trash slots separately, or read fuel without rest of contents

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2026 6:39 am
by mmmPI
macdjord wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2026 8:52 pm
mmmPI wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 5:58 am It's actually not needed for any of the use case you mentionned though and there would be no way to read 3 distinct value from only from 2 wires colors , how do you expect a kovarex enrichment to be different if the suggestion is implemented ? Or if one measure the "input" and the "fuel" on 2 different wire, how are you going to read the trash slot on top of that ?
For example, smart Kovarex loading would be a lot simpler
By "not needed" i meant exactly that. It's possible at the moment to realize (all) the use-case you mentionned even without the suggestion.

You say "it will be simpler", but i meant "in practice", how are you going to make use to the "output slot" and the "trash slot" , is there even any difference ?

It appears to me that when you do a kovarex enrichment, you want the centrifuge to run 100 % of time, and for this you just need to have them with a buffer of 80 "good uranium". When crafting that will represent 40 already loaded for next craft to make sure no delay, and 40 being used as ingredient for the current craft. As soon as the craft finishes, the 40 "in crafting" gets moved to the output slot, and the 40 pre-loaded "disappear", but there's still roughly 80 in the machine. Then when the output slot is getting emptied, the input slot is refilled, to keep 80 at all time in the centrifuge. It's basically only 1 wire preventing the input of "good uranium" on one inserter when the centrifuge has more than 80 uranium.

Even if you could read the output slot, and the trash slot or whatever the difference, there would just be no reason to do so that i can tell for the purpose of a kovarex enrichment, it would make things "more complicated" not "more simple" to try and use them it seems to me. This is why i asked the question, how would you use it ? what would be the difference ? , or if you prefer , "how is it going to make it ""simpler"" ?