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coffee-factorio wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:04 pm

pioruns wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 4:06 pm That's Reddit-style mentality. Make a drama out of nothing, just to show one's importance.

It isn't so unreasonable though. If someone has to recommit a few hours of their weekend to rebuild the thing, they are entitled to their initial reaction. And while the idea of doing an older version is semi-reasonable, you're avoiding bug fixes to make your factory work your way if you commit to that.

Under what circumstances would anybody have to rebuild anything? Wube doesn't force anybody to upgrade anything. You can play any version of Factorio, for, as far as I know, forever. So yes, it's really just hysterics over nothing.

NineNine wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:32 am
Under what circumstances would anybody have to rebuild anything? Wube doesn't force anybody to upgrade anything. You can play any version of Factorio, for, as far as I know, forever. So yes, it's really just hysterics over nothing.

So, to put a point to why I suggested retitling and/or moving this to balance:

If we're talking about getting a software update period, it's easy for someone to dismiss you on the basis that there's mechanics to that like automatic steam updates or bugfixes.

But we don't have to meet emotion with emotion. If someone mods that back in, keep the current version and they don't have to pull an upgrade. But you do have to convince them to trust the mod community and that process.

Harder realize that if you say "well, you're hysterical for the point of being hysterical". They're entitled to their emotions but there's a logic where we can still respect them and ourselves. But like... lets be honest.

It's reddit. There's an entire shitpost community on reddit for this game. Hilarious read, makes it damn easy to do what is above.

coffee-factorio wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 11:04 pm And while the idea of doing an older version is semi-reasonable, you're avoiding bug fixes to make your factory work your way if you commit to that.

Wait, the OP had a working factory before the update, that is the whole reason why he doesn't want to update to a then non-working factory. So why would he need those bug fixes?

meganothing wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:32 pm Wait, the OP had a working factory before the update, that is the whole reason why he doesn't want to update to a then non-working factory. So why would he need those bug fixes?

You still have to respect people and say "Yes, and... you may have a point. We can help you along the path to better or at least to a point where you have as good." The community is also grown by DoshDoshington launching trains at things, and by Nillaus doing city blocks.

As for what OP said... On this one, OP doesn't necessarily believe a balance change is harmful and I can respect that. A build they had was never mentioned. And if they have one, more power to them; but in this matter I don't think having one is really relevant unless you're talking about the mechanic specifically instead of a discussion on reddit.

Hence the suggestion (again). For a change of topic and venue.

If we want to talk about balance and not be subject to reddit's influence. It's a personal choice to take that step.

Disallowing quality in asteroid reprocessing recipes don't make any sense because:
1) asteroid reprocessing is pure fantasy from the very beginning so as long as magic is allowed then nothing shall be disallowed;
2) reprocessing recipes has 20% material loss (it converts 1 chunk into 0.4+0.2+0.2 = 0.8) so actually asteroid reprocessing is refining which must have built-in quality improvement.

As for LDS recipe in foundries.. meh. In the essence Wube confirms that they aren't capable to implement quality for fluids and never will.

Come to think of it, how is 2.1 going to come? Will there be stuff like 2.1 (rc3)? Or they just dump a big patch as 2.1.0 then refine it over the sub-sub-versions?