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Re: [2.0.34] "virtual-signal=signal-ghost" is gone without migration

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:08 am
by Altarin
Rseding91 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:20 pm
I was told:
I didn't expect this and I'm sorry for it but it's probably like 2 people who have this problem
Also we don't have any supported system for migrating signal types to other types so it's simply gone.
Normally i dont feel the need to post here, but this comment made me overcome my aversion.
Please tell that guy to read this thread. Even just me personally know more than 2 people using all virtual signals (myself included). In many places. Its why they exist, isnt it?

This is most un-wube response i have ever read on this forum.

There have also been workarounds posted right here and offered other possible solutions and yet, we are basically being told, we made oops, but we also dont care. Please dont let my high opinion of you guys fall like this. Your attitude to fixing bugs was one of the reason why Factorio is such a gem of a game.

Re: [2.0.34] "virtual-signal=signal-ghost" is gone without migration

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:22 am
by boskid
Given the amount of friction removal of this signal creates and pain of trying to migrate it to something else, this signal will be restored for 2.0.36.

Re: [2.0.34] "virtual-signal=signal-ghost" is gone without migration

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:48 pm
by synchromach
I wonder if this means we're gonna have 2 identical-looking icons for signals.

Re: [2.0.34] "virtual-signal=signal-ghost" is gone without migration

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 2:22 pm
by Illiander42
thegroundbelowme wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:07 am I have to say, I feel like this is an extremely out-of-character response for this company. I expect better from Wube than basically a shrug and a "sorry."
Agreed. This is not the company we've known.

Re: [2.0.34] "virtual-signal=signal-ghost" is gone without migration

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:11 pm
by robot256
boskid wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:22 am Given the amount of friction removal of this signal creates and pain of trying to migrate it to something else, this signal will be restored for 2.0.36.
Thank you, from what I see this is a good decision for now. Perhaps a different icon or other migration can be added in the future. I appreciate the number of decisions you guys make on a daily basis, some of them are bound to be worth revisiting.

Re: [2.0.34] "virtual-signal=signal-ghost" is gone without migration

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:15 pm
by synchromach
robot256 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 3:11 pm
boskid wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:22 am Given the amount of friction removal of this signal creates and pain of trying to migrate it to something else, this signal will be restored for 2.0.36.
Thank you, from what I see this is a good decision for now. Perhaps a different icon or other migration can be added in the future. I appreciate the number of decisions you guys make on a daily basis, some of them are bound to be worth revisiting.
It is a very good decision, boskid explained in a comment on Reddit:
"pain" here means that even if we would try to migrate this signal into "entity-ghost" signal, that is an ID type change from "virtual-signal" into "entity" which we never practiced before, all the migrations before that we did were always within the same ID type. Doing migration into a entity-ghost entity signal would require new code to be written just because a signal that could be simply kept as is was removed.