Someone on discord reported that gleba enemies refuse to expand into the zone of a roboport, even if it has no power, which is easily exploited. When your gleba enemies "freeze in front of the base" does there happen to be any roboports nearby to corroborate that theory? Or maybe they were mistaking some other restriction on expansion on gleba for roboports.
What? Then Gleba would be so much easier by just building some roboports.... that can't be intentional?
Re: [2.0.11] Gleba enemies freeze in place/get Stuck and won't attack (pentapod/stomper) (MR)
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:35 am
by jirkov
Of course there are roboports nearby that repair the defenses. I tried loading the save I posted above and tried to destroy all the roboports in the area as quickly as possible. It doesn't seem to have any effect on the freeze.
Re: [2.0.11] Gleba enemies freeze in place/get Stuck and won't attack (pentapod/stomper) (MR)
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:17 am
by feirell
Just making sure this is the same bug.
You guys mentioned that they don't stop gathering, well some of the pentapods on my world just stop mid attack
PLEASE GIVE AMPLE WARNING WHEN YOU PATCH AND UNSTUCK THEM, otherwise they will just nuke my base
I put my savegame in the attachments, hope that helps.
EDIT:
Yeah they unstuck and restuck, not before completly recking the base.
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I really despise gleba
Re: [2.0.11] Gleba enemies freeze in place/get Stuck and won't attack (pentapod/stomper) (MR)
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:05 pm
by samr85
In my save it looked very much like it was destroying a building that caused them to freeze - it was reproducable (I have a save seconds before an attack that I posted viewtopic.php?p=641130#p641130) that they froze the moment a building was destoyed, and didn't freeze if nothing was destroyed.
Re: [2.0.11] Gleba enemies freeze in place/get Stuck and won't attack
BlueTemplar wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:49 pm
Far away enemies being frozen is by design, for performance reasons.
That's a bad assumption. Yes, for performance reasons, bitters who stand around the bases and do nothing are usually turned off (all links <2.0). But here on Gleba, an attack is launched and half of the units freeze in front of the base. The bug can be repeated. I made a save about 20 seconds before the start of the attack on Gleba (look for the "next freeze" label). I tried reloading it several times and it always ended up freezing 10-50% of the attack units. A "pollution" attack should not be subject to performance limitations.
Someone on discord reported that gleba enemies refuse to expand into the zone of a roboport, even if it has no power, which is easily exploited. When your gleba enemies "freeze in front of the base" does there happen to be any roboports nearby to corroborate that theory? Or maybe they were mistaking some other restriction on expansion on gleba for roboports.
Yes, looks like they freeze just outside the roboport construction zone.
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Re: [StrangePan][2.0.11] Gleba enemies freeze in place/get Stuck and won't attack (pentapod/stomper) (MR)
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:21 pm
by StrangePan
Thank you for all the save files and logs! This should be fixed in 2.0.31.
Re: [2.0.11] Gleba enemies freeze in place/get Stuck and won't attack (pentapod/stomper) (MR)
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:31 pm
by StrangePan
feirell wrote: Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:17 am
Just making sure this is the same bug.
You guys mentioned that they don't stop gathering, well some of the pentapods on my world just stop mid attack
PLEASE GIVE AMPLE WARNING WHEN YOU PATCH AND UNSTUCK THEM, otherwise they will just nuke my base
I put my savegame in the attachments, hope that helps.
EDIT:
Yeah they unstuck and restuck, not before completly recking the base.
