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luc wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:06 pm > Having to build a new base (almost) from scratch, but with different limitations (and more starting technologies) is kind of the point.

That... would have been nicer to know going into it. The main base is currently having its face eaten by some biters that broke through while I'm stuck rebuilding a whole base form scratch here

Given that some resources needed for science packs are only found on other planets, I was going into it thinking we just need to set up some miners and a launch facility. Granted, I wasn't thinking properly anymore at 2am when I decided to land there to take a peek without planning out how get back, so I suppose it's on me and I should just make sure I have backups if I want to avoid a mistake meaning you have to start over

As we've already mentioned, while it's easy to assume that Nauvis would remain to be the location of the main factory for most players, we really wanted to avoid the situation where the new planets become just mining outposts. We wanted the player to build something that feels like a worthy factory on each of the planets.

After you land on a planet, you need to launch rockets again in order to get back into space. At the start this is more of a throwback to again experience the stranded feeling. This time the process is already greatly accelerated since you have all the technologies and your space platform can bring you a lot of construction materials. However, building the rocket infrastructure 4 times starts to feel repetitive, so we definitely aimed to have each of the planet's recipes simplify or completely skip some parts.

The expansion generally puts a lot more emphasis on the stability of your factory, but it's Factorio and some things always go wrong. It's easy to imagine your Nauvis or space platforms aren't having the best time while you're on a different planet. To prevent locking your progress if Nauvis gets cut off or completely overrun, we need to include a way to craft pretty much all of the rocket parts on any planet.

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Stargateur wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:17 am

Iratenater wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:46 am Noob here with only 8000+ hours of game time ran into an issue on vanilla ver 2.0.11 while attempting to insert equipment into the equipment grid. I created a new scenario in which all science is researched using the console command and starting with power armor, spider, and equipment. Despite the equipment being in my inventory, when I went to insert equipment into the grid, only some greyed out images of the equipment ended up there (see image below). This happened on both the power armor and spidertron. Verified these technologies were indeed researched.

I did have a scenario like this running fine on the last 1.xx.xx version.

Assistance is appreciated.


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you need a working roboport with robot to have a robot put the equipment (that what mean the grey thing), so put a normal roboport on the ground, put robot in it, and drop the item to a logistic chest

Hakalugie wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:05 pm Is there a way to build plastic on vulcanis before coal liquefaction is researched that im missing? Without importing anything from main base. I need plastic to build the big mining drill, which is a prerequisite for coal liquefaction

BlueTemplar wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:47 pm Yeah, Wube says that would have been boring, and they're probably right:
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-387

we really wanted to avoid the situation where the new planets become just mining outposts. We wanted the player to build something that feels like a worthy factory on each of the planets.

After you land on a planet, you need to launch rockets again in order to get back into space. At the start this is more of a throwback to again experience the stranded feeling. This time the process is already greatly accelerated since you have all the technologies and your space platform can bring you a lot of construction materials. However, building the rocket infrastructure 4 times starts to feel repetitive, so we definitely aimed to have each of the planet's recipes simplify or completely skip some parts.

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unless I guess you all shared the same platform for that very first trip ?

anaximagnox wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 2:50 am I'm at my wit's end here trying to get my space platform and landing pad to work together. In a nutshell, I want to set a minimum value for something on the space platform, let's say iron ore, and a maximum value for that same thing in the landing pad. That way, I always have an immediately usable stock of materials in space, and I'm also not flooding the surface with more stuff than I need.

If I use both buildings' requests simultaneously, the space platform's requests get prioritized over the landing pad's. If I only use the space platform's requests, it will flood the landing pad above its maximum desired value. If I only use the landing pad's requests, it will drain the space platform below its minimum desired value. I've seen that the rocket silo can read space platform requests, but that doesn't help when the space platform's requests override the landing pad's.

I know I could do a bit of circuitry and use belts to store items, only putting excess up to a certain amount into the space platform's inventory and have the landing pad request off of that excess. But that solution feels so inelegant that it feels like I must be missing something, not to mention I'd need to redesign my platform to store all its reserved materials on belts rather than using the platform's inventory as a miniature bus.

If anyone knows of a better solution than belt storage, I'd appreciate the help.

Zaflis wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:58 pm I don't believe you can set any "Hold at least this many items in hub before sending them to planet". But you say treating hub as a mainbus is elegant, i say it is the opposite Do you not encounter the issue where items flash in and out of the hub storage when it's used as platforms material buffer? I used to store asteroids in hub and it was a complete disaster. I was basically unable to shift-click any item if i wanted to manually send them down with trash slots, because it would be swapping its slot at rate of several slots per second. They were like dodging my cursor...

But more importantly i need all the space i can get to deliver items to other planets. Thousands... of items.

Zaflis wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:58 pm I don't believe you can set any "Hold at least this many items in hub before sending them to planet". But you say treating hub as a mainbus is elegant, i say it is the opposite Do you not encounter the issue where items flash in and out of the hub storage when it's used as platforms material buffer? I used to store asteroids in hub and it was a complete disaster. I was basically unable to shift-click any item if i wanted to manually send them down with trash slots, because it would be swapping its slot at rate of several slots per second. They were like dodging my cursor...

But more importantly i need all the space i can get to deliver items to other planets. Thousands... of items.

BlueTemplar wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:42 am

Zaflis wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:58 pm I don't believe you can set any "Hold at least this many items in hub before sending them to planet". But you say treating hub as a mainbus is elegant, i say it is the opposite Do you not encounter the issue where items flash in and out of the hub storage when it's used as platforms material buffer? I used to store asteroids in hub and it was a complete disaster. I was basically unable to shift-click any item if i wanted to manually send them down with trash slots, because it would be swapping its slot at rate of several slots per second. They were like dodging my cursor...

But more importantly i need all the space i can get to deliver items to other planets. Thousands... of items.

Ugh, yeah, that flickering... why can't we filter SPlatform hub's inventory ?!?
I need to redesign my spaceship now, it was fine for a first one able to survive the round trip, but that isn't cutting it any more...

dragon_gawain wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:45 pm As an example, plastic has the bioplastic recipe from bioflux and yumako mash. Is it ever possible to get bioflux/yumako mash from recycling plastic, or will you only ever get coal?