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Karamel wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:00 pm

Hares wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 11:08 am We need mod which makes these snakes 1 section bigger each time they eat a building.

And once they get big enough the only way to kill them is to trick them into running into their own tail.

Exactly.

GregoriusT wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:49 pm

Nagilum wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:10 pm In terms of killing these enemies, was anyone else's first thought sacrificial nuclear reactors?

Build and fuel reactors in enemies path.
Wait.
Enjoy the fireworks.

The resulting nuclear explosions will hit many segments of the demolisher's body and should do enormous damage.

I really hope THIS was the unconventional way they mentioned in this FFF!

I'm guessing this or mass train collision. either would be pretty epic TBH

"The implementation for this in the prototype was basically a conga line of tanks with some clever code to make them follow-the-leader while adding some sinusoidal movement. The leader was a giant biter."

I love this prototype, it's so playful and whimsy.

In the Offences section, a mockup of attacks is shown.
I had to squint to realize the player existed in the image. It's a black blot in an image where the ground is dark, with even darker shadows.
I guess that's just a persisting issue with the Vulcanus area.

"Demolishers patrol near the edge of their territory and you can see these patrol paths from decoratives on the ground"

Wow. These things can literally claim territory. Now this is speaking my language. It's a shame biters are spawned randomly instead of being placed near stuff players want, like ore.

"At the moment if you alt-click a segment then Factoriopedia shows you the body resistances but you need to click on the head to see the head resistances. Ideally all body parts link to the same page which can show you both sets of resistances."

This is just begging for an enemy catalog like Monster Hunter. That would be SO cool to have, a book you open, see weaknesses, ecology, loot, artwork.

Agamemnon wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:30 pm Ooooh, I can feel it already. This is going to be fun!!! /serious

It is good that they don't grow back. Fighting them for territory and on your terms is sounding much less frustrating than fighting Nauvis biters forever just because.

This worm makes me think about how weird the current biter territory system works. Like, I'd have assumed that organic aliens would have evolved to mostly exist near organic plants, but they currently can exist and expand anywhere, even into the deep desert. Like, the jungle is dense ecosystem of life, but places with less water, high heat, or extremely cold temperatures (as I understand it) are usually more fragile. Plus, what do they eat? Like, they look like termites, but they can absolutely carpet the world on the default difficulty, if you just make a perimeter wall and never venture outside. (And in the default, resources are so dense that I've never felt like I needed to. Train world settings are a lot better, IMO.) So...why didn't they have such a high population before I got here, and how are they feeding all of the new mouths to come kill me?

floven1 wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:45 pm

GregoriusT wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:49 pm

Nagilum wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:10 pm In terms of killing these enemies, was anyone else's first thought sacrificial nuclear reactors?

Build and fuel reactors in enemies path.
Wait.
Enjoy the fireworks.

The resulting nuclear explosions will hit many segments of the demolisher's body and should do enormous damage.

I really hope THIS was the unconventional way they mentioned in this FFF!

I'm guessing this or mass train collision. either would be pretty epic TBH

For a train to hit the demolisher, wouldn't a railroad be needed under the demolisher?

I am also curious about which cheesy strategy they used at the LAN party.

AileTheAlien wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 8:01 pm

Agamemnon wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:30 pm Ooooh, I can feel it already. This is going to be fun!!! /serious

It is good that they don't grow back. Fighting them for territory and on your terms is sounding much less frustrating than fighting Nauvis biters forever just because.

This worm makes me think about how weird the current biter territory system works. Like, I'd have assumed that organic aliens would have evolved to mostly exist near organic plants, but they currently can exist and expand anywhere, even into the deep desert. Like, the jungle is dense ecosystem of life, but places with less water, high heat, or extremely cold temperatures (as I understand it) are usually more fragile. Plus, what do they eat? Like, they look like termites, but they can absolutely carpet the world on the default difficulty, if you just make a perimeter wall and never venture outside. (And in the default, resources are so dense that I've never felt like I needed to. Train world settings are a lot better, IMO.) So...why didn't they have such a high population before I got here

not enough polution

, and how are they feeding all of the new mouths to come kill me?

with polution

I don't get it, what 45 degree slices are being referred to? There are just body sections in the animation. Also, the head is clearly behind the body sections when going north, not in front of them.

Just here to say, please make the mod so that we can have the jellyfish boi from FFF#367. Given the FFF from today and more details on 'the frozen planet', I still want the option to add that additional challenge.

datkensign wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:15 pm

The Demolisher would have a roar or shockwave attack. If the shockwave hit you, you could be stunned or slowed. This would kick up a cloud of ash as the shockwave travels. The cloud would have a small slow effect. The main intention for the cloud can't be disclosed yet, but if Vulcanus is your first planet then the additional effect won't affect you.

So it's going to interfere with something you can do that you'll only gain after visiting at least one other planet.

Could that something be flight? Player flight? Like either an armour module or a "flying" spidertron type thing? What else could it be?

Not a bad guess.

I wonder how long till someone makes a mod where we can catch and transport worms to other planets, like nauvis, and then, or AT LEAST, ride on top of them (LISAN AL GAIB!) into battle to kill the puny biters. Or just let them lose where they roam the planet and eat things.

Could even be an item you can drop that will lure worms to biter bases.

My first impression when seeing one of these pests for the first time, I got Terraria vibes actually, not dune. Just imagine you start building your first tungsten outpost, when suddenly...

You feel vibrations from deep below...

The enemies' names are even similar, i.e. demolisher vs. The Destroyer.
Of course, considering Terraria is one of my other top five games of all time, you may consider this a complement for even the unintentional resemblance!

ledow wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 11:38 am Just me that wants to put artillery in the middle of that and annoy them all and run like hell?

But what would the artillery target? They don't have spawners right? So you'd have to use it in manual mode, which I guess if you're determined to achieve your death wish, sure fine, but...

So a brick of gun turrets seems like the trivial solution. Set up a military assembly mall and was going to try everything, but a brick of 100 gun turrets with piercing ammo was the first solution that worked. Kinda anticlimactic and disappointing, because that this practically turret creeping.

Hopefully the higher tier destroyers are a challenge.

Admittedly the quantity of ore located near the landing zone is already excessive, but I suppose quality grinding might eventually push me outwards, once I get the recycler. But from vanilla instincts, and how efficient the recipes are I can't actually see myself having to expand for a long time.

Ranakastrasz wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:36 pm Hopefully the higher tier destroyers are a challenge.

Medium Demolisher ate 2 direct hits of a nuke before I finished it with the 3rd. Also, his shockwave seems to be able to stop not only the mech armor jetpacks, but also inserted exoskeleton gear. I almost died there in my glorious full-Q3 suit.

Apparently, they are not really territorial animals (worms?). I expected them to react somehow when one comes to the territory of another, but they just clip through each other

fly wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 12:46 pm Apparently, they are not really territorial animals (worms?). I expected them to react somehow when one comes to the territory of another, but they just clip through each other
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Now you have done it. Give it 30 days and you will have a baby demolisher looking to claim some territory of its own.

I still have no idea what is meant by this, from the FF?

The main intention for the cloud can't be disclosed yet, but if Vulcanus is your first planet then the additional effect won't affect you.

Cerberus wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:42 am I still have no idea what is meant by this, from the FF?

The main intention for the cloud can't be disclosed yet, but if Vulcanus is your first planet then the additional effect won't affect you.

The Cloud undoes the Mech Armors Flight Ability, that was why.

Can anyone tell me if these demolishers are resistant to the stun effects of the Tesla turrets?

r3xk3nnw4y wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:37 pm Can anyone tell me if these demolishers are resistant to the stun effects of the Tesla turrets?

I just went to test for you. They do take damage from tesla guns, but if there is any stun/slowdown effect, i wasnt able to see it. Its definitly not useful to kill them.

jaylawl wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:44 pm

r3xk3nnw4y wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 2:37 pm Can anyone tell me if these demolishers are resistant to the stun effects of the Tesla turrets?

I just went to test for you. They do take damage from tesla guns, but if there is any stun/slowdown effect, i wasnt able to see it. Its definitly not useful to kill them.

They isn't any stun/slowdown effect , but as far as i played, it's not necessary to kill the worms Telsa turrets can be very effective on worms because the electric arc can bounce of off the different segment of the worms, and inflict several times the damage indicated in the tooltip.