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Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:15 pm
by leeknivek
I guess its beyond being saved. I can open it in the editor no problem, but as soon as I try to delete anything with the old hexafluoride, a mouse-over causes the crash.

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:18 pm
by MasterBuilder
leeknivek wrote:I guess its beyond being saved. I can open it in the editor no problem, but as soon as I try to delete anything with the old hexafluoride, a mouse-over causes the crash.
Couldn't you start the game on 0.3.0 and remove the objects in-game? Then upgrade to 0.4.0?

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:49 am
by Zeeth_Kyrah
As a content suggestion, if you want to go with super-critical fluids, you could use CO2 in a supercritical state and run it through Brayton-cycle gas turbines in a closed loop system. Which means you'd need to add an air compressor to get that CO2. Here's a relevant link from "The Energy From Thorium Foundation": The Closed Loop Brayton Cycle at Sandia National Laboratory

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:57 am
by leeknivek
MasterBuilder wrote:Couldn't you start the game on 0.3.0 and remove the objects in-game? Then upgrade to 0.4.0?
I tried that, when the game loads it says "expected UraniumPower_0.4.3, received UraniumPower_0.3.0" and then closes. It won't let me load the game without it now.

EDIT: I deleted 0.4.3, opened the game, closed the game, added 0.3.0, opened the game, removed the items, closed the game, deleted 0.3.0, added 0.4.3, and now it works.

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:51 am
by cpy
Does this mod work for multiplayer yet?

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:23 am
by n9103
Have you learned to read at least the last two pages before commenting, yet?

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:09 am
by Liquius
cpy wrote:Does this mod work for multiplayer yet?
Not yet, but it's on my list for the next update.

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:10 pm
by building44
I am so happy to see this mod. Regular Factorio has bothered me a long time because it does not have nuclear power.

On a side note, is there a "getting started" guide for this mod anywhere to help new users? Thanks!

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:59 am
by Fatmice
Hi,

The mod author hasn't gotten to that yet. In the mean time, I've made a world that has all the basis of this mod covered. You can explore the build and understand how it works.

-World covers enrichment chain, material acquisition, weapon production, and a 50 MW capable power house build (you can see stress-test with beacons banks).
-Need Uranium Mod 0.4.3
-Need Factorio 0.11.10

Savegame
http://www.mediafire.com/download/e8h5c ... xample.zip
Uranium-example.jpg
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Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:28 am
by n9103
Nice refining chain. Way neater than mine ever ends up :P
I'm curious though, why did you use beacons instead of radars for the power load?

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:52 am
by leeknivek
Its unfortunate the way steam engines are that you need 93!! to keep up with the 50MW plant.

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:58 am
by n9103
Well, there are non-stock steam engines that are more energy dense. Pretty sure both DyTech and Bob's Power both have improved steam engines.

That aside, at least this is almost a magnitude more dense than the equivalent in solar panels :D

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:38 am
by Fatmice
n9103 wrote:Nice refining chain. Way neater than mine ever ends up :P
I'm curious though, why did you use beacons instead of radars for the power load?
I used beacon because it doesn't reveal more of the map and they use more power than radars. =)
leeknivek wrote:Its unfortunate the way steam engines are that you need 93!! to keep up with the 50MW plant.
Yuoki mod, one of my favorite, has many varieties of generators that are very powerful. I didn't use them because I wanted example build to leverage only vanilla items as well as not requiring people to download another mod just to play with the savegame.

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:49 pm
by building44
Thank you very much.

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:00 pm
by n9103
oh, right, I forgot that the radars I used for a load last time weren't stock. :oops:

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:42 pm
by Liquius
I have had this lying around for a few days. It should hopefully work for multiplayer. However I haven't been able to test it. It would be nice to know if it still doesn't work. It also changes the method for adding fuel so that it's more accurate and a bit smoother.

It won't be compatible with 0.4.3 if you have started building reactors.

0.4.4

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:31 am
by Fatmice
Hi, I just tested the new release in multiplayer mode. It still complains about 1 player not existing right after placing the reactor structure and reactor chest. Esc the notice and the game continues otherwise crash.

The more serious bug has to do with rolling desync that will ensue when you fill the reactor chest with even one fuel assembly. I do not know why the desync occur... The only way to stop the rolling desync is to mine either the reactor structure or chest.

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:06 am
by Fatmice
Updated example build to 0.4.4.

See here for details.
-Save game is in sandbox mode, single player only!

Savegame
http://www.mediafire.com/download/c6c13 ... mple-2.zip

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:23 pm
by Liquius
A new update is out. The main focus of this one is to allow closed loop reactors. That means two new buildings. A heat exchanger and a fast pump.
Setup for an 18MW reactor
Setup for a 50MW reactor
I am currently using the wall as a placeholder image for the heat exchanger.

To get heat exchangers to work, you will need to place them in between two pipes. If at any point one of the pipes is removed, you will replace the heat exchanger. If you use these with fluids from other mods, you may get some strange results. If the fluid isn't water or pressurised water, it assumes the liquids default temperature, max temperature and heat capacity are the same as standard fluids. Lastly, if you have more than one heat exchanger using the same square of pipe, results can be strange.

0.5.0

People can update from 0.4.0+ if you haven't started on reactors, however you will need to type /c game.player.force.resettechnologies() when continueing with an old save.

This update should be mostly multiplayer compatible, however if your reactor is under too much stress (ie the fuel is dipping to 0) then you get rolling desyncs. Its simple to fix, either mine the reactor or the pipe next to it. You will then need more fuel assemblies or less steam engines.

Re: [0.11.x] Uranium Power

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:22 pm
by n9103
Had me wondering wtf was the point of your setups, until I read the part about the walls being stand-ins :P
I'm still wondering though, are you using longer steam engines on the outer middle rows for the 50MW setup?
I ask because you have four pipes on those rows getting heat exchanged, but only 2 pipes on the other rows.