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Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:45 pm
by Supercheese
Version 1.2.1 released, fixing the unintended behavior with the Standard Library event registry.
Additionally, the graphics for the Auto-Targeting station have been improved, utilizing graphics from the
ExtraChests mod by Qumojo.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 10:09 am
by DevilXD
Could you add worms to the auto targeting as well ? It's annoying that they are left after a base is destroyed...
Also, a range of 300 on the auto targeting would be better and not to OP in my opinion.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 7:19 pm
by mawnicker
Just to chime in on the other side of things... I like the smaller range. The auto-targetting station is pretty cheap. You can always build more if you want to cover a larger area. This way you get to control the shape of that area more deliberately.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 8:42 pm
by Qon
mawnicker wrote:Just to chime in on the other side of things... I like the smaller range. The auto-targetting station is pretty cheap. You can always build more if you want to cover a larger area. This way you get to control the shape of that area more deliberately.
But a range of 200 is not that much bigger than a victory pole. 200 is borderline useless. Any shorter and it would never activate...
And why does it matter if the targeter is cheap? The actual weapon, the Ion cannon and the rocket, are not.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 8:47 pm
by Supercheese
You can add longer range in the config all you like, and you shouldn't encounter too many problems if you have only a couple auto-targeters. But performance problems can arise if you have more than a dozen of them all scanning 500+ tile radii around themselves...
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:09 am
by DevilXD
DevilXD wrote:Could you add worms to the auto targeting as well ? It's annoying that they are left after a base is destroyed...
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:13 am
by Supercheese
I'll add worms as valid auto-targets for the next version.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:49 am
by DevilXD
Supercheese wrote:I'll add worms as valid auto-targets for the next version.
Thank you very much
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:55 pm
by Qon
New unofficial version!
Code: Select all
Version 1.2.1 by Qon - 2016-05-23 (ISO 8601)
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Performance improvements for long range Auto targeting stations. Tested on a machine that struggles with 20/20 FPS/UPS, but range of 2000 seems
to work better than 200 did before. Hard to tell on bad hardware though. Expect things to stutter and freeze less though.
ATS targets biters.
ATS avoids killing friendly entities.
ATS targets closest enemy instead of random enemy within range.
ATS avoids heatup time. "Heats up while targting"
Proximity check on friendly entities is optional.
Proximity check works with long range mod.
"Ion cannon ready" voice only plays if you have no ion cannons ready when one finishes cooldown. No more spam.
Klaxon only plays when player targets enemies.
Less text spam, especially for auto targeting.
Recipe now uses 2 satellites + more stuff instead of the ingredients for about 2 satellites + more stuff.
Since each auto targeting station targets an enemy every 10 seconds you need to place down 10 of them together (placed down one second apart) to get a fire rate of 1/second.
@SuperCheese
I didn't bother making the tidiest code possible. I was just fixing functionality q:
I didn't fix the accelerated cooldown bug that I found earlier either. Don't want to hog all the fun
I found another bug: The "Time until next ion cannon ready" times is stuck at 0 for some reason. I don't think I touched anything related to that. Whatever, it is minor.
Edit: ATS targets all enemies, not just biters. Just a typo. It uses api for finding enemies based on force, so could even work against enemy players (don't remember if the rest of the mod is multiplayer compatible though). Since the heatup is 0.1 seconds for ATS targeting it's pretty OP in PvP though. But satellite uplink station mod renders PvP impossible anyways q:
Edit: This 1.2.1 is not the same as the 1.2.1 Supercheese released. I accidentally chose the same version number q:
And I changed the default range to 500. But it isn't really needed since it can target all enemies and not just stationary targets.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 5:47 pm
by Supercheese
Qon wrote:@SuperCheese
I didn't bother making the tidiest code possible. I was just fixing functionality q:
I didn't fix the accelerated cooldown bug that I found earlier either. Don't want to hog all the fun
I believe that particular bug to be fixed in 1.2.1.
And there is a Github project page:
https://github.com/Suprcheese/Orbital-Ion-Cannon
You can
fork the repository, push changes, and
make a pull request. I wasn't familiar with this workflow myself, until just a couple months ago, but it works great and is helpful to all parties involved.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:46 pm
by vanatteveldt
@Supercheese, thanks for the update! I'm loving the auto-targeting...
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
I now have 75 ion cannons patrolling my walls.
What is the range of the targeter? It seems to be a bit less than the STRS Impulse Radar, but I can find any statistics. In any case, I think a bit longer range would be okay, and making it (optionally) target biters or having a second building to target biters also sounds cool.
+1, this is really the only way to collaborate with third parties, it really works great!
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 5:35 am
by DevilXD
vanatteveldt wrote:What is the range of the targeter? It seems to be a bit less than the STRS Impulse Radar, but I can find any statistics.
According to the config file, it's 200 tiles.
vanatteveldt wrote:In any case, I think a bit longer range would be okay,
I've posted this like 6 post ago here:
DevilXD wrote:Also, a range of 300 on the auto targeting would be better and not to OP in my opinion.
Luckily, we can change that in the config
vanatteveldt wrote: and making it (optionally) target biters or having a second building to target biters also sounds cool.
With the heatup timer of 7 seconds, it's not going to be too accurate
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:24 am
by vanatteveldt
DevilXD wrote:I've posted this like 6 post ago here: [..]
So I guess I agree with you
DevilXD wrote:
vanatteveldt wrote: and making it (optionally) target biters or having a second building to target biters also sounds cool.
With the heatup timer of 7 seconds, it's not going to be too accurate
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Well, I think that's part of the tradeoff - it shouldn't become a turret-like weapon. But in my experience, biters tend to hover around in a fixed place quite a lot, so it might still be worth it. A good distance from friendly structures would be nice though
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 6:41 am
by bNarFProfCrazy
Maybe you should add those FAQs to your main posts so that they can be discovered easier.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:14 pm
by Qon
Supercheese wrote:Qon wrote:@SuperCheese
I didn't bother making the tidiest code possible. I was just fixing functionality q:
I didn't fix the accelerated cooldown bug that I found earlier either. Don't want to hog all the fun
I believe that particular bug to be fixed in 1.2.1.
And there is a Github project page:
https://github.com/Suprcheese/Orbital-Ion-Cannon
You can
fork the repository, push changes, and
make a pull request. I wasn't familiar with this workflow myself, until just a couple months ago, but it works great and is helpful to all parties involved.
Yeah git is great, I've used it some. I won't make my updates as a pull request right now though. When I get the time.
vanatteveldt wrote: In any case, I think a bit longer range would be okay, and making it (optionally) target biters or having a second building to target biters also sounds cool.
You can try out my version if you want performance improvements and ATS stations to target all enemies. My 1.2.1 version is made from the official 1.2.0 so you lose those latest improvements. I would say my additions are bigger and qooler though q:
It doesn't alter any buildings in any way that makes it incompatible so you should be able to just swap it back and forth as you like.
I would also like to have a short range 200-300 tiles auto targeter with targeting rate that can be used instead of turrets (as long as you don't run out of Ion Cannons lol) + a long range radar for detection of stationary targets. The API doesn't tell which chunk was scanned though which is really annoying...
DevilXD wrote:vanatteveldt wrote: and making it (optionally) target biters or having a second building to target biters also sounds cool.
With the heatup timer of 7 seconds, it's not going to be too accurate
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Works in my version. In the future I would like it to move the target during the heatup instead of the solution I have now where the heatup for automatic targeting is 0.1 seconds. The in lore explanation is that you don't see the targeting until right before the blast but that it actually tracks and moves the target point while heating up. Next challenge is doing it technically too. Would also be nice if the player could drag the reticule as long as you don't let go of the button. Though I don't want to lose the ability to drag the mouse to fire off my 400 ion cannons either...
vanatteveldt wrote:Well, I think that's part of the tradeoff - it shouldn't become a turret-like weapon. But in my experience, biters tend to hover around in a fixed place quite a lot, so it might still be worth it. A good distance from friendly structures would be nice though
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_e_smile.gif)
I disagree, turret walls are annoying to place. Lots of manual work that can't be automated in my world with lots of water. And then you have to supply with repairpacks and new turrets, bots and walls all the time. And making a supply train will take forever since there's just so many stations and they are not lined up for easy rail laying. And if I want to expand I have to redo it all. Much simpler to send up a few hundred rockets and then just plop down a few targeting stations here and there to defend an area that is a square km or bigger. Targeting station never need repairs if they kill everything before it comes close enough and the placement doesn't really depend on terrain features with their long range.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 12:58 pm
by DevilXD
Qon wrote:The API doesn't tell which chunk was scanned though which is really annoying...
IIRC, devs are adding that to the 0.13 version
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 1:45 pm
by Qon
DevilXD wrote:Qon wrote:The API doesn't tell which chunk was scanned though which is really annoying...
IIRC, devs are adding that to the 0.13 version
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
Fantastic! Then it's only a week until long range radar type spawner targeters will be possible.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:28 am
by DevilXD
Is it possible to have a table which keeps track of currently targeted spawners, so that other auto-targetting stations will not "waste" several ion cannons on one spawner ?
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 3:46 am
by malk0lm
I just launched a cannon and when I try to use it I get the error: Friendly character in critical proximity to target zone. I have it fully zoomed out and no one is near the target, only the biter base. Why won't it fire?
I'm on 12.34.
Re: [MOD 0.12.33] Orbital Ion Cannon 1.2.1
Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 4:32 am
by Qon
malk0lm wrote:I just launched a cannon and when I try to use it I get the error: Friendly character in critical proximity to target zone. I have it fully zoomed out and no one is near the target, only the biter base. Why won't it fire?
I'm on 12.34.
Because you haven't read the description carefully enough and you are not using the latest version.