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I'm curious to know how this will work with achievements, as they are usually disabled with mods.

GregoriusT wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:58 am BUG REPORT POTENTIALLY: There is two Achievements for your first Artillery kill!
That is what spoilers i get for looking at Steam xD

Hantu wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:01 am

The only difference was a 20% larger equipment grid over Power armor Mk2, but along with quality this felt well above adequate already.

This concerns me. Alongside other changes it makes the earlier statements about quality even harder to believe.

It's also worth noting that while it's a lot of fun to play with quality, using it is completely optional. The expansion is balanced in a way that using quality can be beneficial, but it is reasonable to finish the game without touching quality at all.

This stops being true when combat equipment, and therefore enemies, are being balanced around quality. If it had to be added it should never have applied to equipment.

TheMax wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:18 pm I bought Factorio here and got a steam key later.

Can I buy Space age here and also play that on steam?

Please elaborate.
Thank you

Sanqui wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:22 pm

TheMax wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:18 pm I bought Factorio here and got a steam key later.

Can I buy Space age here and also play that on steam?

Please elaborate.
Thank you

Yes, if you buy Factorio: Space Age on our website, you will be able to redeem a Steam key from the profile page, same as with the base game.

kitters wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:25 am I wonder why do you have to release the game in Monday, not in Friday, damn you

meganothing wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:28 am The quote says that the power armor is **well above adequate**, meaning quality makes it slightly or really OP. Which lines up well with the other quote that it is reasonable to finish the game without touching quality at all.

Hantu wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:32 pm

meganothing wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:28 am The quote says that the power armor is **well above adequate**, meaning quality makes it slightly or really OP. Which lines up well with the other quote that it is reasonable to finish the game without touching quality at all.

I quoted it word for word right there. You can't just rewrite it to pretend it says something that it doesn't. It says in plain language "with quality this feels above adequate," and is a plain admission of balancing the armor around quality despite the promise not to balance the game around the controversial, and supposedly optional, mod.

If quality needed to be in the game, they needed to separately balance the game with the mod enabled or design and balance everything around the mod being disabled. Unfortunately they've decided to balance the base game around the quality "mod," which is what many of us who didn't want to engage with quality were worried about after it was announced and why there was.

"Finishing the game" isn't the operative point, it's that the mod isn't optional when the game is balanced around it. There are many sets of challenges under which it is "reasonable to finish the game," avoiding quality wasn't supposed to be a handicap.

Sanqui wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 1:22 pm

TheMax wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:18 pm I bought Factorio here and got a steam key later.

Can I buy Space age here and also play that on steam?

Please elaborate.
Thank you

Yes, if you buy Factorio: Space Age on our website, you will be able to redeem a Steam key from the profile page, same as with the base game.

Hantu wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 2:32 pm

meganothing wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 11:28 am The quote says that the power armor is **well above adequate**, meaning quality makes it slightly or really OP. Which lines up well with the other quote that it is reasonable to finish the game without touching quality at all.

I quoted it word for word right there. You can't just rewrite it to pretend it says something that it doesn't. It says in plain language "with quality this feels above adequate," and is a plain admission of balancing the armor around quality despite the promise not to balance the game around the controversial, and supposedly optional, mod.

If quality needed to be in the game, they needed to separately balance the game with the mod enabled or design and balance everything around the mod being disabled. Unfortunately they've decided to balance the base game around the quality "mod," which is what many of us who didn't want to engage with quality were worried about after it was announced and why there was.

"Finishing the game" isn't the operative point, it's that the mod isn't optional when the game is balanced around it. There are many sets of challenges under which it is "reasonable to finish the game," avoiding quality wasn't supposed to be a handicap.

bluewilson wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:48 am Good luck tomorrow, Wube. Would be interesting to hear if the release is a scheduled task, and fully automated, the office closed, and you all gathered at some vacation resort, relaxing in some pool tomorrow at 1100UTC.