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Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:33 am
by Peter34
Well, personally I think worrying about rail curve perfection is silly.

My personal opinion aside, though, it's a well-known fact that many Factorio fans have some degree of OCD, and based on that, improving the rail symmetry could be a good use of developer man-hours.

Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:59 am
by hitzu
The best impoving of rail curves would be the possibility to mine straights pieces under the curved ones.

Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:03 pm
by johanwanderer
hitzu wrote:The best impoving of rail curves would be the possibility to mine straights pieces under the curved ones.
I use the deconstruction planner for this. Just deconstruct both pieces, then un-deconstruct (shift-click) the curved piece.

Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:50 pm
by ssilk
I think this detail is so annoying (or annoying enough :) ), that it should be handled as a bug.

Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:14 pm
by orzelek
There is one very important question here - are you willing to handle the update after it rolls out on your network?

I do agree that current rails looks slightly off and that can be annoying.

Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:54 am
by Cooolaid
I agree with the original Poster.
Turns and curves of rails should be seriously improved.
It does look off and very odd looking. Hopefully in the future it gets fixed.

Just putting my signature on this because its needed. :)

Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:49 am
by tobsimon
Oh, I missed it. But you guys already linked my 2 cents about it.

Had a good laugh at Peter34's comment, also, no it's totally not silly, you're silly. :P

Id love to see more feedbeck on the question DerivePi raised: Which geometry is preferable,
the new flexible one,   (https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... =6&t=12603 "New rail geometry")
or the fixed old one?   (https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... =6&t=10340 "Simple fix for the ugly rail circles")
(both already linked before)



Also the deconstruction issue gave me an idea for rail building:
As always, there should only be one generic rail piece in the inventory. You can build it as a straight piece (rotate as usual), but shadows of the curves appear, which might be build in it's stead, like so:
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This only happens, when you build connecting to prexisting rail. These shadows do not invoke the construction bots. They disappear, when you deselect the rail or build another rail piece. The curves are actually built, when you click on them, or when you build a rail piece connecting with them. In this case, the straigt disappears again, if it is terminal. If it is connected on both ends, it stays where it is. You may build on an existing continuous rail to display the shadows of the 4 curves (left and right, both directions) which can be built there to branch the rail.

Actually building a curve costs 4 rail pieces (same as current price, mathes it's length). Since one piece is already spent for the straight which will be replaced once the curve is built in it's stead, the remaining cost of 3 pieces is taken out of the inventory when the curve is actually built. Full cost of 4 in case of a branch.

I think this way, new players can easily see how to build curves, and it's seems to me an elegant way to build advanced stuff also. It is however a new variant of the build action not used (usable) anywhere else. But it expands very well to two different radii as used in the proposed new rail geometry.

You like it?

Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:35 pm
by Zeblote
New flexible rail geometry is definitely better than temporarily fixing the old one!

Re: Improved rail curves

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:18 pm
by katyal
IIRC Kovarex touched on the subject in one of the friday blog posts (Can't seem to find the post maybe it was here on the forums after all). More specifically mentioned they wanted to go for a generic rail and making it easier to lay