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Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:28 pm
by astral-entity
I wanted to create a mod for a water pump until I hit a road block. As far as I can see, it's not possible to do what I wanted or it's getting too complicated.

What I wanted to do was a water pump that ...

... looks like a pump jack
... acts like an offshore pump
... requires electricity
... can be placed anywhere

To add at least some form of balancing, I think this should come with a cost. For the benefit of putting that pump anywhere, it should require electricity and only has a low water output.

Sounds simple, but it's not.
  • I got a version of the mod working, using the "OffshorePumpPrototype" prototype. Unfortunately this prototype doesn't have attributes to configure an energy source.
  • Using a "MiningDrillPrototype" is also not working for me since it needs to be placed on resources. And I want it to be placeable everywhere.
  • The "AssemblingMachinePrototype" with a hidden recipe (I saw that a lot in other mods) is also not really what I want. I don't like the items-produced counter and I don't like the idea of water being "produced".
Soo. to create a clean mod, the way I wanted to I need one of these things:
  1. The "OffshorePumpPrototype" is extended with the ability to have an energy source.
  2. The "AssemblingMachinePrototype" can be configured to be placed anywhere. And maybe I need a way to mark it so it's not thinking that resources are missing

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:09 pm
by FuryoftheStars
There exist a few varieties of this type of mod already:
Offshore P.U.M.P.S. and Ground Water
Water Well (pump free water from the ground)
Zaned - Drill to Aquifer
Mud Water well pump
Stone Water Well

To list a few.

Edit: That list was primarily meant as a "take a look at these on how they did it". That said...
astral-entity wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:28 pm The "AssemblingMachinePrototype" with a hidden recipe (I saw that a lot in other mods) is also not really what I want. I don't like the items-produced counter and I don't like the idea of water being "produced".
This is, unfortunately, afaik, the only way to do it. You can just ignore the production counter, or see it as a counter of how much the pump as drawn up from the ground.
astral-entity wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:28 pm The "AssemblingMachinePrototype" can be configured to be placed anywhere. And maybe I need a way to mark it so it's not thinking that resources are missing[/list]
I'm assuming you meant "MiningDrillPrototype" there.

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:10 pm
by jamiechi1
Can the Stone Water Well mod be 'forked'. I have been using my locally modified version for years.
I don't see any licensing info on the mod page.
And Discussions are locked there as well. (There should be a law against this.)
I plan to update it for 2.0 and others might find this helpful.

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:56 pm
by Silari
jamiechi1 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:10 pm Can the Stone Water Well mod be 'forked'. I have been using my locally modified version for years.
I don't see any licensing info on the mod page.
And Discussions are locked there as well. (There should be a law against this.)
I plan to update it for 2.0 and others might find this helpful.
Every mod has licensing terms shown as part of the block of info at the top, under Homepage. Per that, it's under the creative commons 3.0 license.

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:10 pm
by jamiechi1
Silari wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:56 pm
jamiechi1 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:10 pm Can the Stone Water Well mod be 'forked'. I have been using my locally modified version for years.
I don't see any licensing info on the mod page.
And Discussions are locked there as well. (There should be a law against this.)
I plan to update it for 2.0 and others might find this helpful.
Every mod has licensing terms shown as part of the block of info at the top, under Homepage. Per that, it's under the creative commons 3.0 license.
For some reason I never looked there. I expected to see a license file in the mod and a reference in the info.json file.
In any case, I got the mod ported to 2.0 late last night and it seems to work fine now. (Currently only tested on Nauvis.)

Anyone want to take it over and release it? The original mod owner Steinio disappeared and locked the discussions for this mod.
I have access to Github and can upload it there. I will Not use Discord. Don't ask why.

Edit: Maybe I should just put it on Github for now.

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:36 pm
by BraveCaperCat
jamiechi1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:10 pm
Silari wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:56 pm
jamiechi1 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:10 pm Can the Stone Water Well mod be 'forked'. I have been using my locally modified version for years.
I don't see any licensing info on the mod page.
And Discussions are locked there as well. (There should be a law against this.)
I plan to update it for 2.0 and others might find this helpful.
Every mod has licensing terms shown as part of the block of info at the top, under Homepage. Per that, it's under the creative commons 3.0 license.
For some reason I never looked there. I expected to see a license file in the mod and a reference in the info.json file.
In any case, I got the mod ported to 2.0 late last night and it seems to work fine now. (Currently only tested on Nauvis.)

Anyone want to take it over and release it? The original mod owner Steinio disappeared and locked the discussions for this mod.
I have access to Github and can upload it there. I will Not use Discord. Don't ask why.
I'd want to take it over and release it!

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:49 am
by jamiechi1
BraveCaperCat wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:36 pm
jamiechi1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:10 pm
Silari wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:56 pm
jamiechi1 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:10 pm Can the Stone Water Well mod be 'forked'. I have been using my locally modified version for years.
I don't see any licensing info on the mod page.
And Discussions are locked there as well. (There should be a law against this.)
I plan to update it for 2.0 and others might find this helpful.
Every mod has licensing terms shown as part of the block of info at the top, under Homepage. Per that, it's under the creative commons 3.0 license.
For some reason I never looked there. I expected to see a license file in the mod and a reference in the info.json file.
In any case, I got the mod ported to 2.0 late last night and it seems to work fine now. (Currently only tested on Nauvis.)

Anyone want to take it over and release it? The original mod owner Steinio disappeared and locked the discussions for this mod.
I have access to Github and can upload it there. I will Not use Discord. Don't ask why.
I'd want to take it over and release it!
Read Only link to my latest code.
https://1drv.ms/u/c/01162d1530f5d466/Ed ... g?e=KttEbb

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:40 pm
by BraveCaperCat
jamiechi1 wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:49 am
BraveCaperCat wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:36 pm
jamiechi1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:10 pm
Silari wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:56 pm
jamiechi1 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 8:10 pm Can the Stone Water Well mod be 'forked'. I have been using my locally modified version for years.
I don't see any licensing info on the mod page.
And Discussions are locked there as well. (There should be a law against this.)
I plan to update it for 2.0 and others might find this helpful.
Every mod has licensing terms shown as part of the block of info at the top, under Homepage. Per that, it's under the creative commons 3.0 license.
For some reason I never looked there. I expected to see a license file in the mod and a reference in the info.json file.
In any case, I got the mod ported to 2.0 late last night and it seems to work fine now. (Currently only tested on Nauvis.)

Anyone want to take it over and release it? The original mod owner Steinio disappeared and locked the discussions for this mod.
I have access to Github and can upload it there. I will Not use Discord. Don't ask why.
I'd want to take it over and release it!
Read Only link to my latest code.
https://1drv.ms/u/c/01162d1530f5d466/Ed ... g?e=KttEbb
Stone Water Well 2 Repository

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:05 am
by BraveCaperCat
Did you already upload the mod to the mod portal? or is that another fork?

Re: Struggle with waterpump mod

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 4:05 pm
by jamiechi1
I have never released any mods. It is an old modification I made to shrink the Water Well to 3x3 tiles, and fixed the graphics to insure the visible pipe inside was the same size as the pipes in the game. I think I made my version around 3 years ago.
My version originally based on https://mods.factorio.com/mod/StoneWaterWell version 18.4.