Place and Forget Base Walls

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Place and Forget Base Walls

Post by FrodoOf9Fingers »

I wanted to design a set of walls with the following conditions:

1. Vanilla
2. Modular, with as little blueprints as possible to create all of my walling needs.
3. Usable with Pavement Drive Assist with no changes (supports speeds in a car of up to 190 kph)
4. Contains all of the awesome turrets in game
5. Removing all but one type of turret still results in a fully defended wall system
6. Roboport builable
7. Train passable
8. Nice looking, and not just turrets thrown everywhere

I ended up with the following 2 blueprints. I had to use some extra walls to prevent creep from getting withing the flame turret's minimum range. You'll notice that directly in front of each flame turret, and when you do a corner, on a corners. The only thing I wish have added more was some sort of safety gates to prevent trains from killing me. I couldn't think of an effective strategy for that while preserving the other characteristics.

Enjoy!
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Re: Place and Forget Base Walls

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These look awesome! I like all the details. I never thought to put bumps in front of my flame turrets to keep biters in range of them. I am currently working on something similar for a Raining Bullets run and I will definitely try out that technique. A few questions:

1. I assume the belt is to feed ammo?

2. Why is it in front of the turrets, between walls, instead of running behind the gun turrets and just having a simple 2-thick wall in front? Seems like this pushes the gun turrets back 1 space more than necessary. It's probably a non-issue with the flame turret improvements, just when I was doing mine I was thinking about maximizing range. Same for the power poles. I tucked all that stuff behind turrets so they could be as far forward as possible. I suppose one justification is that it possibly conserves ammo by allowing the flame turrets to get priority on targets.

3. Curious about your choice in placement of rails. I have made segments which pass my standard double-rail system straight through instead of one at a time. Aesthetic choice? (If so it's a good one, the system looks great). Is your completed square example below an example of where you would put rails in a typical mining outpost, or just showing off the ways the rail ports on your wall interconnect?

My current struggle is how to cram 3 train stations (mine pickup, resupply train, artillery station) and a small stacker into an outpost while keeping it compact and without a lot of dead space. And of a configuration that is re-usable for differently-oriented and shaped resource patches.

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Re: Place and Forget Base Walls

Post by FrodoOf9Fingers »

1. Yes
2. Double walls take extra damage from large biters, having one space between prevengs that. Since it was already there, i used the space (after making sure that large biters dont splash damage belts too). The flameturrets having firing prior ity is a nice bonus, as the flames last on the ground for awhile, allowing more damage to biters before they gey within gun range.

The biggest reason though was to make sure there was enough room for the concrete path merge for a car going 190kph to be automatically diverted without crossing belts.

3. It strays from my double rail system too :(. Since the roboport are the guides, you have to have a line of symetry going through each roboport. So, the only ways to have rails is to have 4 entrances per blueprint, or 2. I felt 4 was overkill considering the walking gate, and pus hing the rail closer to the corners was weird. Also, 4 rails makes placing turrets hard (every part of the wall is defended by every type of turret). The example is just showing off what hou could do.

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