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Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Tue May 02, 2017 11:59 pm
by JPUT
I love the new electric networks map, and I'm a bit anal about my pole placement now that I have such a neat visualization. I refuse to ever place a pole that connects to another pole at an angle. But then I got to large poles. They're two wide. They don't line up exactly with the small poles. There's no way to connect them without making the nice neat lines look messed up. ImageImage

Every time I look at this it makes me more upset. That one on the top right is especially irritating. It runs to an outpost really far off screen. But it's gonna have to get replaced because it messes up the whole thing. It's gonna be medium poles for everything in my base I guess.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:08 am
by steinio
WTF? REALLY?

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 5:14 am
by Koub
In him the OCD strong is. Very strong, indeed. :mrgreen:

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:00 am
by AndrewIRL
Does this illustrate the problem? The small poles have their wire connection in the centre and thus not grid aligned, the big poles are centre and grid aligned both.
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The solution would be to grid align the electrical connection for the small poles.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:40 pm
by JPUT
AndrewIRL wrote:Does this illustrate the problem?
Yeah that seems to be the issue. I'm sure it's about 1000x more work than it's worth to fix. Which means I'll just have to spend the rest of forever using nothing but small and medium poles. Oh well.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:52 pm
by aober93
Uhhh why does this matter :?

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 1:53 pm
by AndrewIRL
JPUT wrote:
AndrewIRL wrote:Does this illustrate the problem?
Yeah that seems to be the issue. I'm sure it's about 1000x more work than it's worth to fix. Which means I'll just have to spend the rest of forever using nothing but small and medium poles. Oh well.
They are updating the graphics for high res anyway. Maybe they'd consider it if you made a suggestion. You aren't the only Factorio player who likes stuff to line up nicely, plenty of players work hard on elegant designs.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:13 pm
by steinio
AndrewIRL wrote:
JPUT wrote:
AndrewIRL wrote:Does this illustrate the problem?
Yeah that seems to be the issue. I'm sure it's about 1000x more work than it's worth to fix. Which means I'll just have to spend the rest of forever using nothing but small and medium poles. Oh well.
They are updating the graphics for high res anyway. Maybe they'd consider it if you made a suggestion. You aren't the only Factorio player who likes stuff to line up nicely, plenty of players work hard on elegant designs.
Man this would only use up important developer time and has no benefit for the whole game play.
Live with it.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 2:25 pm
by Klonan

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:16 pm
by AndrewIRL
steinio wrote:Man this would only use up important developer time and has no benefit for the whole game play.
Live with it.
High res graphics, enhanced map colours and non-square resource tiles use up important developer time and have no benefit for the whole game play. Aesthetics matter, we like pretty stuff.

JPUT has only made two posts total and both in this thread. If I were to hazard a guess I say this one issue was important enough for him to create an account and make this thread.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:49 pm
by jona5
if its just the aesthetics, maybe it is not too harsh on your eyes to arrange the interfaces between medium and long-range poles/substations at 45° angles?

(Please ignore the mess on the right... ;) )
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_I_ could live with that and i am rearranging belts constantly because their paths do not look nice.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Wed May 03, 2017 4:57 pm
by Aeternus
Optionally, you could use Big Poles and Substations only, since those both align to center and center grid, being 2x2 each.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:31 am
by AndrewIRL
If this suggestion doesn't make the cut in the current pole redesign (Friday Facts #195 - Poles re-design) then it is unlikely to ever happen and should be moved to "Outdated/Not implemented".

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 12:02 pm
by Rseding91
Yeah that's not happening :P

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:21 am
by AndrewIRL
A clear cut decision, I like it. Thanks for not hedging. :)

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:10 pm
by featherwinglove
AndrewIRL wrote:Aesthetics matter, we like pretty stuff.
Aesthetics matter: I like ugly stuff. I like the car and the loco :mrgreen: I wish I could get 1x1 long wire power poles though.

Re: Electric Networks Map Lines - Lines not Lining Up

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:52 am
by FutureSpec
@JPUT I am glad I'm not the only one who is driven a little nuts by the large poles not lining up with the small.

@jona5 great suggestion on the 45 degree angles!