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sdgmlj wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:41 am I like this game very much, but I just don't like placing a lot of poles. Can I lift the maximum 64 limit or add some appropriately? To meet different needs of people.

ptx0 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:43 pm

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:41 am I like this game very much, but I just don't like placing a lot of poles. Can I lift the maximum 64 limit or add some appropriately? To meet different needs of people.

uhm use substations

robot256 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:08 pm I can't find the link, but the Factorio devs have stated the current power pole range limit exists because of lag. Even at a distance of 64, there can be a lot of lag every time anything builds a pole or anything that uses electricity, because a very large area needs to be searched for poles to connect to or draw power from every time.

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:31 am

robot256 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:08 pm I can't find the link, but the Factorio devs have stated the current power pole range limit exists because of lag. Even at a distance of 64, there can be a lot of lag every time anything builds a pole or anything that uses electricity, because a very large area needs to be searched for poles to connect to or draw power from every time.

Thank you. I don't understand the game mechanism, but many similar games are unlimited. For example, the "Dyson quest plan" is unlimited. I can only put one pole on a planet, but I still like this game. I hope this game is the same

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:28 am

ptx0 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:43 pm

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:41 am I like this game very much, but I just don't like placing a lot of poles. Can I lift the maximum 64 limit or add some appropriately? To meet different needs of people.

uhm use substations

Thank you. Can the substation have a long connection distance? Or is there a larger scope? But I can't find this mod

FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:18 am

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:31 am

robot256 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:08 pm I can't find the link, but the Factorio devs have stated the current power pole range limit exists because of lag. Even at a distance of 64, there can be a lot of lag every time anything builds a pole or anything that uses electricity, because a very large area needs to be searched for poles to connect to or draw power from every time.

Thank you. I don't understand the game mechanism, but many similar games are unlimited. For example, the "Dyson quest plan" is unlimited. I can only put one pole on a planet, but I still like this game. I hope this game is the same

For every pole you place, it needs to check a radius around it of its wire reach distance for other poles that it can connect to. Example, 100 reach pole would need to check a radius of 100 tiles. A simple area calculation has this as 31416 tiles that would beed to be checked, but the reality due to fractional tiles is that this figure may be larger or smaller depending on how the devs handle it. Same applies to giving power.

Other games may have different mechanisms where their “tile” sizes are different when it comes to power poles, or are wireless, or other (to use your example, 1 pole per planet could be a simple bool check against the planet: does it have a pole?).

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:28 am

ptx0 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:43 pm

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:41 am I like this game very much, but I just don't like placing a lot of poles. Can I lift the maximum 64 limit or add some appropriately? To meet different needs of people.

uhm use substations

Thank you. Can the substation have a long connection distance? Or is there a larger scope? But I can't find this mod

Not a mod. It’s a base game item. Has a wide area power coverage. Not as much as you’re looking for, but it reduces the need for placing poles immensely.

FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:18 am

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:31 am

robot256 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 3:08 pm I can't find the link, but the Factorio devs have stated the current power pole range limit exists because of lag. Even at a distance of 64, there can be a lot of lag every time anything builds a pole or anything that uses electricity, because a very large area needs to be searched for poles to connect to or draw power from every time.

Thank you. I don't understand the game mechanism, but many similar games are unlimited. For example, the "Dyson quest plan" is unlimited. I can only put one pole on a planet, but I still like this game. I hope this game is the same

For every pole you place, it needs to check a radius around it of its wire reach distance for other poles that it can connect to. Example, 100 reach pole would need to check a radius of 100 tiles. A simple area calculation has this as 31416 tiles that would beed to be checked, but the reality due to fractional tiles is that this figure may be larger or smaller depending on how the devs handle it. Same applies to giving power.

Other games may have different mechanisms where their “tile” sizes are different when it comes to power poles, or are wireless, or other (to use your example, 1 pole per planet could be a simple bool check against the planet: does it have a pole?).

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:28 am

ptx0 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:43 pm

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:41 am I like this game very much, but I just don't like placing a lot of poles. Can I lift the maximum 64 limit or add some appropriately? To meet different needs of people.

uhm use substations

Thank you. Can the substation have a long connection distance? Or is there a larger scope? But I can't find this mod

Not a mod. It’s a base game item. Has a wide area power coverage. Not as much as you’re looking for, but it reduces the need for placing poles immensely.

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:37 am The default setting of Dyson's plan is also very small, but it can be modified through mod, so I enlarged it 1000 times.. I think the game should be unrestricted and let users choose. For example, my computer configuration is high enough and I can change it to a larger number.

ptx0 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:58 am

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:37 am The default setting of Dyson's plan is also very small, but it can be modified through mod, so I enlarged it 1000 times.. I think the game should be unrestricted and let users choose. For example, my computer configuration is high enough and I can change it to a larger number.

it used to be the way you're asking for. it was creating too many support requests and Wube didn't want to deal with people who don't understand why it makes it slow.

you should just install Bob's Power mod and be done with it, use the substations and place fewer poles. but no one is going to change anything in the base game about this.

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:26 pm So, can I modify the file to remove this restriction? I play stand-alone without affecting others. My computer configuration is very high. Even if it slows down, I won't complain about the official. So, where is this file? Hope to tell me

FuryoftheStars wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:30 pm

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:26 pm So, can I modify the file to remove this restriction? I play stand-alone without affecting others. My computer configuration is very high. Even if it slows down, I won't complain about the official. So, where is this file? Hope to tell me

No. This is within the core game itself. The devs would need to make the change.

sdgmlj wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:56 pm You can put this file in the outer layer where mod cannot be modified. In this way, those who want to modify it can modify it themselves and bear the consequences. Is this suggestion OK?