Can the limit of maximum 64 connection distance of poles be lifted

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Re: Can the limit of maximum 64 connection distance of poles be lifted

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ssilk wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:46 am
Ptx0: I don’t think that was the point. Connection limit is about distances, not coverage.

In general I would say this won’t be implemented, especially because a hard coded limit has been build in to prevent the game from dying. A modder cannot estimate how long a graphics card in an older computer will need to draw such a long wire. Things that take nanoseconds on his machine can take some milliseconds on another.

therefore moved to won’t implement
If you read through everything, it sounds like they really wanted the ability to just place one pole and it covers the entirety of their base.
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Re: Can the limit of maximum 64 connection distance of poles be lifted

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ssilk wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:46 am
Ptx0: I don’t think that was the point. Connection limit is about distances, not coverage.
yeah i guess they need high ore frequency and build everything on top of one spot.

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If you read through everything, it sounds like they really wanted the ability to just place one pole and it covers the entirety of their base.
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It is suggested to change the maximum connection distance limit of electric poles to 128

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Normally, "maximum_wire_distance" should be twice as much as "supply_area_distance" (maximum_wire_distance = supply_area_distance * 2), because if both values are set to 64, half of the areas will overlap.

Sorry to bring up the old story again, because I just don't like poles

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Re: It is suggested to change the maximum connection distance limit of electric poles to 128

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Now it's 2022. Most people's computer configuration is very high. We can't measure the game by the standards of a few years ago. It's time to relax the restrictions appropriately :D :D :D

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Re: It is suggested to change the maximum connection distance limit of electric poles to 128

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If you want to continue the discussion, use your original thread from 2 months ago (when it was already 2022), not start a new one: viewtopic.php?f=71&t=101098
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[Koub] Merged both identical suggestion threads.
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Re: It is suggested to change the maximum connection distance limit of electric poles to 128

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Now it's 2022. Most people's computer configuration is very high. We can't measure the game by the standards of a few years ago. It's time to relax the restrictions appropriately :D :D :D
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Re: Can the limit of maximum 64 connection distance of poles be lifted

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I think this limit is to prevent using up too much CPU cycles when connecting poles. The area-search is an expensive function, which increases quadratically with the radius. The range limits the search radius around the pole. A search for an area of 128x128 is 4 times bigger than for 64x64.
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If you hate poles that much, just make a mod to set every machine to void energy source :roll:

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Re: It is suggested to change the maximum connection distance limit of electric poles to 128

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sdgmlj wrote:
Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:22 pm
Now it's 2022. Most people's computer configuration is very high. We can't measure the game by the standards of a few years ago. It's time to relax the restrictions appropriately :D :D :D
the most common configuration on Steam is the Nvidia Geforce 1060 GT.

that's 6 years old.

hardware shortages and GPU miners have kept the newer stuff mostly in the Unobtanium land for all mere mortals.

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