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Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 12:17 pm
by Epb7304
TL;DR
Please make smart belt dragging a setting again

What ?
TLDR

it was a setting in 1.1 that allowed players to click and move their mouse anywhere they want without worrying about disconnecting the belts

EDIT: after 40 hours or so with it being forced on I will amend my suggestion slightly. I would request that it be a shortcut. there are occasions where it can be helpful (laying belt or pipe in a vehicle for example) however it still needs to have the ability to be off.
Why ?
a lot of experienced players (including myself) never turned in on as we utilized the ability to place them more easily side by side (parallel throughput)

There is no reason why this option should have been removed

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:02 pm
by zFuN4368
To top it all off, they made zero mention anywhere of this becoming mandatory. If they had, they would've received a lot of backlash from it and wouldn't have proceeded. Almost 2400 hours in, and I've only ever wanted to use it once, during a modded save, and even then I didn't keep it on for very long because it wasn't toggleable without going through the settings menu. Wube please fix.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:38 pm
by zFuN4368
Got around to asking in a couple streams, apparently it was brought up at the LAN event, and the devs just said get used to it, everyone is gonna have to play with it on. This is a completely bs move wube. It was already a togglable setting, just leave it in.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:03 pm
by Kenira
Agreed, this is very annoying that it got removed. Why not just keep it as an option? Never play with it, and never want to. There are so many cases where having it off makes building certain things easier.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 4:56 pm
by Cuguron
Yes please!

Please let us spam belts again!

I was trying to set up my belt bus and could not drag belts sideways. It's very anoying!

Why did the option get removed?

Never used in 2,4k hours of play and never missed it!

And not even mentioned in the Release note!!!

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:03 pm
by Alwego
+1
Idea to delete this is illogical for me.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 8:19 pm
by redman3
Bout to literally refund space age as building belts now is supper annyoing

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:53 pm
by Diablo
I support this, please give us back this option.
I personaly have NEVER liked the smart belt feature but was very happy to see it was an option.
Turned it off after trying it for about a week when it first was introduced and just didn't like it and couldn't get used to it.
I have never turned it back on again.

It just hinders quick placement of many adjencent belts.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:03 pm
by Merssedes
+1 for the option

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:31 am
by siniox
+1 give it back for a lot of people smart dragging is painful

EDIT:
VICTORYYYYY

(silently) added back in 2.0.15

and thanks to the factorio team for being listening to the community, now i can praise all the marvels of 2.0 instead of grieving over a lost, cherished feature

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:31 am
by Merssedes
P.S. Downgrading to 1.1.110 and postponing SA purchase until there are at least workarounds.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 8:26 am
by bakerbelays
It's completely throwing me off. It's nauseating. I paid 35 dollars again (well, 20 dollars in 2017), I need to be able to have stupid belt dragging.


I need stupid belt dragging. It's how I do it. It's stupid but it's mine.

I've been playing this way since 2017, 7 years I have been reliant on stupid belt placement.

Please. Please just give me this.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:39 pm
by Resand
This is the idiotic thing that's putting undergrounds under every last twig on the ground too right?
HATE IT

[Space Age] - Where is the option for smart belt dragging?

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 2:56 pm
by FritzHugo3
In most cases, I find it very annoying when automatic underground belts are set. I've been forced to try it now, but it doesn't work at all. It's so incredibly cumbersome and I'm constantly ripping off the incorrectly set undergrounds.

Please give us the option to switch this off in the game menu. Conversely, if it is off by default and for the rare cases where it would be useful for my way of building, you could include it in the keybindings to switch the setting

I really don't enjoy the automatic mode. And I don't see why the option had to be removed, it didn't harm anyone, did it?

Is ther a way to workaround it in a config file?

Thx

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:18 pm
by Koub
[Koub] Merged into the existing thread about smart belt option

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:12 pm
by Roy
I also would like the option back, it's just annoying otherwise.

And I'd love to know why it got removed. Was the settings menu getting too cluttered? Did the old way no longer work after changing something for 2.0? Or do the devs think everyone like the smart belt dragging, and no one cares about the missing setting?

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:38 am
by Zombiee
I will also add my voice to requesting the return of 'smart belt dragging' as an option we are able to toggle off.

If people want to use it, great. I just want the ability to disable it again so I don't have to use it.

Please reconsider it's removal.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:02 am
by YuriPrime
I just do not understand why a option that gave players the choice how to play was removed. It makes placing belts a incredibly painful chore at best, without it I was able to place belts infinitely faster and just as accurately. I have almost 2000 hours and it's completely killed any want to play.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:14 am
by Vulkandrache
Yes from me too.
This feature is terrible. I tried to use it for an hour in the past and turned it off ever since.

Re: Smart Belt Dragging Setting

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 9:38 am
by BlueTemplar
Among other things, sounds like integrating Picker Belt Brush (think Numpad+/- for concrete but for belts instead) into the core game would be really appreciated..?