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Mouse hover while game is paused

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:24 am
by AdamK
Mouse hover while game is paused should display the sam info about items when game is not paused.

Re: Mouse hover while game is paused

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:52 pm
by ssilk
Why?

Nothing can be done in Factorio while game is paused. It’s a pause.

Re: Mouse hover while game is paused

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:28 am
by eradicator
ssilk wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:52 pm
Why?
Because most other strategy/rpb/whatever games lets's you scroll around and inspect things while paused ;)? It's usually called "active pause" or similar. But I know that the factorio engine probably can't do it, so not getting my hopes up :p.

Re: Mouse hover while game is paused

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:48 am
by AdamK
Exactly, active pause. You can stop, examine what You did wrong, then unpase and fix it, instead of watching some disaster unfolding :P

Re: Mouse hover while game is paused

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:44 am
by jodokus31
eradicator wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:28 am
ssilk wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:52 pm
Why?
Because most other strategy/rpb/whatever games lets's you scroll around and inspect things while paused ;)? It's usually called "active pause" or similar. But I know that the factorio engine probably can't do it, so not getting my hopes up :p.
The editor does something like that, if you are paused

Re: Mouse hover while game is paused

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 10:43 am
by eradicator
jodokus31 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:44 am
eradicator wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:28 am
ssilk wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:52 pm
Why?
Because most other strategy/rpb/whatever games lets's you scroll around and inspect things while paused ;)? It's usually called "active pause" or similar. But I know that the factorio engine probably can't do it, so not getting my hopes up :p.
The editor does something like that, if you are paused
As far as i remember game.tick_paused has some weird effects on combinators.

Re: Mouse hover while game is paused

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:18 am
by ssilk
“Because most other games does it” is not a good argument, because I know other games, that also explicitly forbid that you can do things while paused.

And from game-value seen: this leads in my experience to a gameplay where I constantly swap between play and pause. I would pause the game if I see some biters and “cheat” in many ways: e.g. immediately cancel the current craft, start making turrets instead and when unpausing I would run to that direction and place the turrets, that are built meanwhile. You spared some important seconds and I would grin, because I found a way to cheat the game. And so I try to find more ways and to spare such seconds.

But a lot of gameplay would get lost! ;)

I would like to know from the devs: is this a design decision or more a technical gap of the Factorio game engine?