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Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:20 am
by Okke
Summary
I suggest that a train horn could be introduced, that could be activated either manually or automatically when a train is about to hit the user. It should be more or less cheap to implement, but it will save lots of user "lives" when they crossing railroads!
Primary
Just turn on the horn when the user is standing on the tracks (or next to them?) and an approaching train can run over him in 3-5 seconds.
Secondary
Make it possible to control the horn in the train manual mode just for fun or to signal to another player.

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:30 am
by vjbone
Xterminator will like this :D

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:18 am
by Optera
Did you try Honk?
Only thing missing is a warning horn.

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:07 am
by Kyralessa
This one doesn't make sounds, apparently, but it says it shows warning lights where a train is about to show up.

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/theTrolleyProblem

There's also this one, that lets you set train speed limits:

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/TrainSpeedLimit_018_Port

Oh, and finally, here's one that'll honk after the train kills you :D :

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Better-TrainHorn

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:00 pm
by Okke
Optera wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:18 am
Did you try Honk?
Only thing missing is a warning horn.
Kyralessa wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:07 am
This one doesn't make sounds, apparently, but it says it shows warning lights where a train is about to show up.
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/theTrolleyProblem
There's also this one, that lets you set train speed limits:
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/TrainSpeedLimit_018_Port
Oh, and finally, here's one that'll honk after the train kills you :D :
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Better-TrainHorn
Thanks for the links! But these mods don't implement the suggested idea. theTrolleyProblem is more or less close to this, but the solution is not authentic. And what I understood is that the problem is an actual one!

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:13 am
by MassiveDynamic
It would be awesome if you could wire up a real air horn to the game so that when a train is about to kill you in game a 160 decibel air horn sounds behind your head and you stroke out irl.

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:58 am
by ssilk
There are more mods:

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/nice-try-train Makes player invincible

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/MoreHonks More honk sounds, 0.18 only


I also used for some time a debug-mode-option, to show the breaking-point of a train. So I knew, when I saw that breaking point incoming: RUN!

Think it was that: show-train-braking-distance - The distance a train will take to stop at its current speed

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 2:44 pm
by Okke
ssilk wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:58 am
There are more mods: ...
Thanks! The think is that Factorio intruduced a trains that copy behaviour of trains in the real world: thay have stations and schedules, they follow traffic signals and so on. But the most famous property of any train, the horn, is completely ignored. It is not good.

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:48 am
by foamy
Train horns when they start up, stop, or hit a rail crossing or gate could be a real nice immersion add. Safety feature, too! I've been slapdashing it by rigging a speaker to the signals inside intersections or player crossings, but it's just not the same as a good horn.

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:53 am
by coderpatsy
Another mod that teleports players out of the way before they get splattered: https://mods.factorio.com/mod/splatter_guard

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:59 am
by eradicator
coderpatsy wrote:
Wed Mar 10, 2021 5:53 am
Another mod that teleports players out of the way before they get splattered: https://mods.factorio.com/mod/splatter_guard
Reminds me of the classic Get off the tracks mod. That one seems to be deprecated now but was more immersive than "teleporting" away.

Trains should whistle

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:32 am
by AdamK
Trains should whistle a second before the're about to hit a player. So s/he can react.

Re: Trains should whistle

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2021 7:46 am
by ssilk
Merged with same subject

Found also a related thread

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60690 Personal Wireless Rail Signal

PS: Me and many other players here play most times without sound. ;)

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:52 am
by ptx0
not gonna be free to implement. it's going to be expensive, CPU-wise.

Re: Train horn - warn the user about bumping

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:40 am
by ssilk
Exactly. It’s more or less like the calculations for gate opening/closing, but the gate is very fast and very wide. ;)

See also the arguments above. In narrow areas, with many trains this will get soon very annoying.

I think I can say: this will never come in the suggested way. What I can think are some of the features of the mods above. So I will not move it to won’t implement yet.