Accessability: shortcut_bar_expand_button

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Accessability: shortcut_bar_expand_button

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I have bad mouse aim, trying to hit this tiny 8x16 button is among the hardest challenges of the entire game.
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Increase the size of that button to at least 24x24 like the close button. Better yet make it full 40x40 like every other control element.

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Re: Accessability: shortcut_bar_expand_button

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That button is so totally out of the look and feel of the rest of Factorio GUI that I did oversee it for half a year when that was introduced. :)

P.S.: The configuration of the shortcuts is an XP nightmare. ;)
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Re: Accessability: shortcut_bar_expand_button

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ssilk wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:38 am
That button is so totally out of the look and feel of the rest of Factorio GUI that I did oversee it for half a year when that was introduced. :)
Fun fact, this must be different from one to another depending on personal experience : I saw it right away, because I was kind of expecting something to be there.
... Which doesn't help if one has trouble aiming such a small target.
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Re: Accessability: shortcut_bar_expand_button

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Koub wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:59 am
Fun fact, this must be different from one to another depending on personal experience : I saw it right away, because I was kind of expecting something to be there.
"Usability" is always personal, and worse, sometimes contradictory. That said, I'd definitely support a larger button, for two reasons:

As I've gotten older my vision has gotten worse, and that makes tiny buttons harder to use quickly. Not unusable -- glasses and all that -- but just that little bit more annoying. A larger button would help anyone in a similar position, and shouldn't detract too much for folks who don't need it.

The other reason is that I'd actually like a bigger shortcut bar, since there are more "infrequent enough to use a shortcut button, frequent enough to justify a shortcut button" things I'd like to have than there are slots available right now. Especially with more mods offering a shortcut button rather than a top-left button to open their UI.

I can't have a bigger shortcut bar today. What I did instead was put the second tier stuff -- less frequent than the visible buttons, still frequent enough -- in the popup menu so they were fairly quickly accessible to click the "activate" button once I opened it. Assuming I need to do that longer, easier-to-open menu is a winner from a usability point of view.

Even if the shortcut bar grew, I'd probably still end up needing that. All I need do is look at my logistic/construction toggles, blueprints, copy/cut/paste/undo, etc, and it'll be like my shortcut bar: filled beyond bursting no matter how big. :)

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Re: Accessability: shortcut_bar_expand_button

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I support this suggestion and want to add some other ideas in order to improve the shortcut bar (especially with mods):
  • Add the ability to search the shortcut menu Edit: This has been implemented in 1.1
  • Split the shortcuts in categories with tabs or drop down lists (see my mod as a reference for possible categories Shortcuts for 1.0)
  • Make the position of the shortcut in the bar fixed. Instead of the dragging maybe add a field where you can set the number of a specific slot
  • Add "shortcut bar columns" setting (similar 83878)
  • Show "(Not set)" in the tooltip of a shortcut if the associated control input is empty
  • Show the associated control input not only in the tooltip but also in the menu
  • Open the shortcut menu in front of other windows like the inventory (see 90117)
Sorry for the long list but I didn't think it was helpful if I created a new topic for every small idea. If requested I will do so of course.
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