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in 0.17 will be removed assembly machine limits.

So can be changed player start pack
- 1 drill
- 1 furnace
- 1 assembly machine
- 1 laboratory
- 10 solar panel & 8 accumulators or/and 1 boiler & 1 steam engine & 1 water pomp (solar has lesser power but it is solar...)
- some electric poles

- optionally some turrets?

- car? take 1 car to player and make recipe & research for cars more expensive.
Move car in tank research? car is actually war machine. you can get fast car or strong tank...

Limit of achievement Lazy bastard can be changed from 111 to 0!

0!!!

That will be really Lazy bastard XD

I don’t like this staring inventory for normal games but it would be good for a campaign.

Why so much stuff?

All you need when limits are removed is one assembler, one solar panel, and one power pole. You can mine rock to make furnaces, and ore to make everything else.

Very slowly at first of course but that's the point, right?

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5thHorseman wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:55 pm

Why so much stuff?

All you need when limits are removed is one assembler, one solar panel, and one power pole. You can mine rock to make furnaces, and ore to make everything else.

Very slowly at first of course but that's the point, right?

Yes, but...
reason of take 1 drill + 1 furnace + 8 iron plates now - minimal help to start & hint to newbies.
that is not needed as you can craft any thing...

more stuff will not take game too easy but will take more complex hint & help to gamers.

how much games you have played? are first hours interesting for you?

that start pack not too big (cars & turrets can be)...

The major change no one's bringing up here is that we either need to make this so it can only be achieved in a special scenerio (granted, you pretty much have to decide before you start already, but I'm a bit hesitant as all other achievements are done in freeplay), or you need to change the starting items for freeplay (which I don't believe would be a good idea).

ggrnd0 wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:06 pm

how much games you have played? are first hours interesting for you?

I've won maybe 5-6 times, including 2 lazy bastard runs, one with the aforementioned assembler (though I used a 3), solar panel, power pole combo. I've sarted... who knows how many and yes, in general I'd like more not less stuff.

Lazy Bastard is a special run. I'd love it if it was a starting option in the save, and you had extra stuff when not going for it. I'd also love a starting option with more items to start, for after you get sick of the burner phase.