I made a quick example for you guys to show what it could look like: ( This is just a example of what could be possible )*
Factorio image is a bit cropped, I know.
Why ?
This would also attract new players. Not just to Factorio but also to our communities and it makes it easy for people to join
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:07 pm
by despicable_bapple
This would be really useful for when I am playing a public game and want to invite lots of people without having to add them on steam or tell them what the game name is called
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:18 am
by badgamernl
After seeing a lot of games implement this feature and the games getting free publicity. I am still waiting for Factorio devs to NOT think about bot changes and think about things that actually add something to the game. <3
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:00 am
by CC007
This would also be nice for people to join a pvp map.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:38 am
by bobingabout
I don't understand why discord is even such a big thing. it's a terrible program.
rant
I keep getting toast to tell me when people say something, click on the toast before it disappears, and it just loads discord, doesn't take me to the message.
And then I can't even figure out where the conversation is where people were talking to me.
it's ugly, unstable, and unreliable, takes half an hour to start when it needs an update, and, voice randomly stops broadcasting and receiving, yet keeps indicating that it's working fine.
It's impossible to find friends who use it unless they directly tell you their secure name and 4 digit number because there's no search function, which they can't do because they don't use Skype anymore, so you have no way to contact them. seriously, I know his nickname, he uses the same account name for every program, he uses the same display picture too, let me search his name and I'll know which one he is, why can't I do this?
Now it's hard to say this after seeing the 7.80 and 8.x versions of Skype... but it's WORSE THAN SKYPE!!! Version 7.40 series of Skype anyway.
I use Telegram now. I get this MSN Messenger, WLM 2009 nostalgia while using it.
It's actually not a bad idea though.
I personally would never use it, I run chat clients like Skype/telegram/discord/trillian on a laptop, while gaming on a PC.
rant2
A laptop that just won't update windows 7, it's stuck pre-SP1, and since factorio demands SP1 to run on windows 7, and therefore factorio won't run on it. go easy on it, it's 8 years old now, it's amazing it even still works, though what more do you want out of a chatbox and web browser? Perhaps a working internal WiFi adaptor? USB micro-dongle works fine though. And yes, I tried replacing the internal wifi adaptor, but it wouldn't work. so I thought maybe it's the antenna? so I bought a replacement antenna to try it, and that didn't work either (using either original or replacement wifi card), so maybe it's an issue with the main board's wifi adaptor socket.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:20 pm
by eradicator
bobingabout wrote:I don't understand why discord is even such a big thing. it's a terrible program.
rant_too
I tried using the web version because one of my friends decided that discord is now the new hype and stopped using any other means of communication (why do ppl do that?! srsly?! why do they have to change their messenger like they change their trousers)... well, the web version turns solid black every time i move my mouse(!) until i stop moving my mouse. Which makes it complete garbage to use. Also i don't want to be on a channel with 20 other people i don't care about, i just want to speak to my friend. But apparently nowadays everything happens in channels and the idea of not wanting to sift through the communication noise of random strangers is somehow outdated. Yes, i know discord theoretically has 1-to-1 communication, but that's not the main mode of usage for most people, nor is it encouraged to be used as such. Someone should make walled garden style communication illegal, maybe then we can start concentrating on communication and stop worrying about the newest program hype.
TL;DR: Please don't waste dev time on integration with a program that's going to be replaced in at most two years when the next "big thing" comes and promises a freshly polished holy grail of communication because the old one has started to accumulate some dust.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:56 pm
by Bilka
@bob, @eradicator: Your inability to use the program does not mean it's bad. Discord lets you easily find where you were mentioned by clicking the @ symbol next to your user name at the bottom left. And eradicator that the person you want to talk with doesnt use DMs isnt the programs fault. Servers are not encouraged over DMs by the program, if your friend doesnt use it, it isnt the applications fault.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:07 pm
by eradicator
Bilka wrote:@bob, @eradicator: Your inability to use the program does not mean it's bad. Discord lets you easily find where you were mentioned by clicking the @ symbol next to your user name at the bottom left. And eradicator that the person you want to talk with doesnt use DMs isnt the programs fault. Servers are not encouraged over DMs by the program, if your friend doesnt use it, it isnt the applications fault.
do_not_read
A flickering black screen isn't "my inability to use the program", and anways that was not my main point (hence the rant was hidden in spoiler tags). My main point was to not waste resources on integrating a short-lived third party tool. Because there are a lot of those and if you integrade one ppl might as well demand that you support 10 others.
And i also didn't say that "the program encourages channels" i said that that is how most people use it (again, in spoiler tags because semi off-topic).
Maybe i should have ranted more about how i find the interface obnoxious (even when it's not black-flashing)? Or maybe you should instead try to explain why discord is supposedly so much better than everything else instead of telling me that i'm unable to properly use a program.
Did you want to say anything on topic or just rant at my rant?
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:10 pm
by Kayanor
eradicator wrote:...
Noone ever said that Discord is better than any other communication program in this topic. Discords main advantage is the combination of different features you have on other programs (TS3, Skype, ...) with only having ONE program instead of many. There might be other programs in the near of not-so-far future, but they will most likely end up like Minecraft clone games did.
If you don't want to talk on servers or Group DM's, then don't talk on there. If your don't like Discord (or any other program), then simply don't use it. If your friend switched to Discord and turned off any other way of communication, just don't use Discord until they realize that someone isn't using Discord and turn the other things back on. If they let you alone then sorry, that's not a friend in my opinion. Reality is always sounding harsh.
Graphical problems in the web version are depening on hardware and used browser. Try downloading the client, that might work better.
If you want to remove Discord from the system because it's not working better on client, uninstall it.
And please keep the discussion civil.
Rich presence on Discord might be worth a consideration in a later state of the game. The current goal is to stabilize 0.16 and not to implement features on other programs.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:16 pm
by Zedrox
I support this idea, although I agree it probably shouldn't be a priority. Discord integration is a lovely QoL feature which helps indicate to friends what you are currently doing. As with most Steam games you can look at 'View game info', frequently games are not implementing this functionality (such as Factorio). Discord rich presence is a good alternative which avoids the awkward "What are you doing" or disruptive call during gameplay. It's great for immersion when your pals can suddenly appear in-game next to you!
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:04 am
by bobingabout
Okay, the OP wants to specifically join a game with someone through Discord.
Can you already do that through steam?
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:25 pm
by Zedrox
bobingabout wrote:Okay, the OP wants to specifically join a game with someone through Discord.
Can you already do that through steam?
I don't think so, admittedly I haven't tried in a while.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:14 am
by bobingabout
Zedrox wrote:
bobingabout wrote:Okay, the OP wants to specifically join a game with someone through Discord.
Can you already do that through steam?
I don't think so, admittedly I haven't tried in a while.
Considering Factorio is a steam game, I would sugest that the devs first do that as part of steam integration, then once it's complete consider extending it to 3rd party systems, such as Discord.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:09 am
by foodfactorio
hi, i think anything that has potential to help players play factorio is good ,BUT, i too have had bad experiences with Discord (especially the support process when they forced 2 factor suddenly and i lost access to my account because i had never set up a 2 factor at the start when i simply got invited by a friend to start using discord), so as good as the basic discord site may have been, that just put me off discord for a long time and id only use it again if i really needed to or if i really wanted to)
sorry if slightly off topic, but yes i would say a good steam integration will be good to maintain, bearing in mind that i bought the game on steam my self
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:11 am
by BenSeidel
Instead of "Integrating it with Discord", use a launch protocol/URI and register it as a handler with the various operating systems.
In the same way a user clicks https://blah and it opens up a web browser or steam://whatever-game-it-is, make a factorio://blah URI.
That way every application can integrate with it instead of trying to do it with non-standard/proprietary interfaces.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:26 pm
by Fahrradkette
Guess Mumble is better suited for Factorio since it's quite light on CPU usage since it doesn't need to run a browser (electron) in order to work.
In the other hand, for Mumble isn't backed by a big hype company, it's less likely to change its api so the developers miss out on the great opportunity of chasing a moving target.
(I see myself out)
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:44 am
by Zedrox
BenSeidel wrote:Instead of "Integrating it with Discord", use a launch protocol/URI and register it as a handler with the various operating systems.
In the same way a user clicks https://blah and it opens up a web browser or steam://whatever-game-it-is, make a factorio://blah URI.
That way every application can integrate with it instead of trying to do it with non-standard/proprietary interfaces.
This is a good suggestion, but is uniquely different to this request. Adding a protocol handler would not allow users to see rich presence in the way the OP requested and I would also like.
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:59 am
by eradicator
Fahrradkette wrote:Guess Mumble is better suited for Factorio since it's quite light on CPU usage since it doesn't need to run a browser (electron) in order to work.
Why does everyone have to run their own browser nowadays. Damn webapp hype >_>.
Zedrox wrote:
BenSeidel wrote:Instead of "Integrating it with Discord", use a launch protocol/URI and register it as a handler with the various operating systems.
In the same way a user clicks https://blah and it opens up a web browser or steam://whatever-game-it-is, make a factorio://blah URI.
That way every application can integrate with it instead of trying to do it with non-standard/proprietary interfaces.
This is a good suggestion, but is uniquely different to this request. Adding a protocol handler would not allow users to see rich presence in the way the OP requested and I would also like.
Adding a universal protocol handler for quick invites should definetly be done before wasting huge amounts of time chasing the latest hype. And even that should only be done after steam. (If any of those happen at all.)
Re: Discord Rich Presence / GameBridge
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:43 am
by bobingabout
Fahrradkette wrote:Guess Mumble is better suited for Factorio since it's quite light on CPU usage since it doesn't need to run a browser (electron) in order to work.
In the other hand, for Mumble isn't backed by a big hype company, it's less likely to change its api so the developers miss out on the great opportunity of chasing a moving target.
(I see myself out)
Mumble is awesome. it runs whenever my gaming computer is running.
