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Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:58 am
by sillyfly
(Note: This has been suggested before here - https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... ble#p17544 , but as this is only one point in a -very- long thread not regarding this specific problem, and as I have seen no comment about the suggestion in that thread, I make this new suggestion, more explicitly)

I think everyone who played a bit understands this - trees are hard to walk through, and nigh impossible to drive through, so mostly you just try to avoid them, or blast them with grenades/shotgun.
For me, it is really hard to notice the trees in the map, so avoiding them becomes tedious and almost impossible.

Therefore I suggest making the trees more visible in the map and minimap (perhaps configurable?).

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 1:18 am
by The Phoenixian
Oh god yes.

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:12 am
by CreeperDaReeper
The Phoenixian wrote:Oh god yes.
+1

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:08 am
by Align
+1 from me, too.
If the upcoming tank is able to mow through trees without damage it'll be worth crafting for that alone...

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:14 am
by IOScream
+1 How would they be represented on the map?

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 8:34 am
by sillyfly
IOScream wrote:+1 How would they be represented on the map?
Right now they are represented by dots or blocks of a slightly darker color than the surroundings, but it is almost invisible, even in the closest zooms.
I guess making the difference more pronounced would be a start, or maybe even making it a solid color (as opposed to the current semi-transparent overlay).

But if there are better suggestions that's even better, I suppose :)

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:19 am
by Mangledpork
+1 from me, I don't care if it's neon green or flashes purple as long as I can see it.

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:44 pm
by ssilk
I think that should be some kind of layer, which I can switch on/off, like the pollution. Cause seeing forest on map is not useful, when you search for resources.

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:47 am
by The Phoenixian
ssilk wrote:I think that should be some kind of layer, which I can switch on/off, like the pollution. Cause seeing forest on map is not useful, when you search for resources.
*raised eyebrow*

While knowing where trees are may not be useful in knowing where that coal vein is it's useful in most other common situations like navigation and predicting pollution flows.

Really it would just be simpler and better (for the player, though I don't know enough about the game's architecture to say for the designers) to have ore deposits and biter nests overlay on top of trees rather than the reverse as is the case now.

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:26 am
by ssilk
One one hand you want to have them more visible, on the other not. Again: it depends on what I'm looking for. Sometimes I look for ores, sometimes on wood/forests, sometimes I want to see pollution, sometimes the electric network is my interest.
I wanna have layers. :)

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:56 am
by CreeperDaReeper
ssilk wrote:One one hand you want to have them more visible, on the other not. Again: it depends on what I'm looking for. Sometimes I look for ores, sometimes on wood/forests, sometimes I want to see pollution, sometimes the electric network is my interest.
I wanna have layers. :)
+11

Fix the Visibility of Trees on the Map.

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:24 am
by therapist
joined -- ssilk

The color of trees on the game's map makes them nearly impossible to see when zoomed out. I would like to see either A. the colors changed a little for higher visibility or B. an alternative color mode on the map like the alt key makes except for trees and other objects important to base planning.

I have trying to plan where I should place my end game factories and the roads that will connect them but I don't want to just completely deforest an area. Currently I've been using a program like Paint+ to create "Planning Maps" like the one I have posted below. While this solution works well, it would be nice to have a sort of alternative color mode like this built into the game so I don't have to spend so much time out-of-game on planning for my factories and highways in-game.

Right-Click and select View Image if it doesn't fit your screen size correctly.

Image

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:15 pm
by bulldog98
For me sometimes only a small amount of the map info matters, so I think having a legend where one can choose what to show would be even better.

Forst more visible on the map

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:05 pm
by Aardwolf
Hi,

I really need to squint and look at the right angle to my screen to see forest on the map.

Yet forest is so important for finding good vs bad paths to walk somewhere.

Colors of terrain types like desert and grass have almost no effect but those are visible on the map... in fact I often confused those colors for forest.

Could trees/forests be given a more distinct color on the map?

Thanks!

Re: Forst more visible on the map

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:10 pm
by sillyfly

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:12 pm
by Aardwolf
+1 to more visible forest, seriously...

Re: Forst more visible on the map

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:13 pm
by Aardwolf
Ok I +1'd it. Also looks like I accidently posted this in the wrong forum, I intended to put it in suggestions but it's in gameplay help. Sorry.

Anyway, other thread is from 2014, so I assume they don't take this suggestion :(

Re: Forst more visible on the map

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:18 pm
by sillyfly
To be honest - I don't know. As far as I can remember the developers never said anything about it, so they may still implement it.
I personally would like to see an option to enable/disable map layers.

Re: Make trees more visible in map

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:52 pm
by Koub
[Koub] Merged topics, because they are really one single topic indeed :).