Iron Stick... Just remove please

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It's barely used for anything, yet in those few cases it complicates things. What's the point?

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Avezo wrote:It's barely used for anything, yet in those few cases it complicates things. What's the point?
tracks, lights

if sticks are complicated then why bother playing it at all.

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There's a resource which is much more "whatsthepointy" - Wood. Not "Raw Wood", but actual "Wood".

I suspect many players don't even consciously remember it exists at all. :-)

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Tracks, tools, lights. Plus in order to make the stick is not so bad.

As for wood, Fuel. Harvest a forest cause it's in your way? Use said harvested forest for fuel.

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Lav wrote:There's a resource which is much more "whatsthepointy" - Wood. Not "Raw Wood", but actual "Wood".

I suspect many players don't even consciously remember it exists at all. :-)
you've got a point. you only use wood (the plates) in the first few minutes of a new game: poles, chests

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Agree.

Stuff that is crafted with wood can just be crafted with logs. Stuff that requires iron sticks can just require Iron plates. I always end up with some left overs as well that just take space in my inventory.
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redlabel wrote:Agree.

Stuff that is crafted with wood can just be crafted with logs. Stuff that requires iron sticks can just require Iron plates. I always end up with some left overs as well that just take space in my inventory.
Agree.

Stuff that is crafted with steel can just be crafter with iron ore. Stuff that requires green circuits can just require stone. I always end up with some leftovers as well that space is dark.

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mophydeen wrote:
Lav wrote:There's a resource which is much more "whatsthepointy" - Wood. Not "Raw Wood", but actual "Wood".

I suspect many players don't even consciously remember it exists at all. :-)
you've got a point. you only use wood (the plates) in the first few minutes of a new game: poles, chests
Unless you play my mod, then you start pulling your hair out because there's never enough wood.
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mophydeen wrote:
redlabel wrote:Agree.

Stuff that is crafted with wood can just be crafted with logs. Stuff that requires iron sticks can just require Iron plates. I always end up with some left overs as well that just take space in my inventory.
Agree.

Stuff that is crafted with steel can just be crafter with iron ore. Stuff that requires green circuits can just require stone. I always end up with some leftovers as well that space is dark.
I see what you did there, but that's a slippery-slope argument that can go both ways. Why stop at iron sticks? I think we should have to craft bolts, nuts, rivets, a rivet gun, a screwdriver that you must have equipped to build anything, etc. It could take 8 hours of meticulous step-by-step crafting by hand to get out of the burner phase.

The reason sticks and wood are so reviled is that they are different than most any other thing in the game, in that they merely serve as busy work for 3 or so other things.

While we're on the topic, why is copper needed for electric poles, and not copper wire?

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5thHorseman wrote:While we're on the topic, why is copper needed for electric poles, and not copper wire?
Agree. I don't like recipes that produce final goods out of raw materials without use of intermediate products. And it's quite logical to use wires instead of copper plates for poles.

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alexzzzz wrote:
5thHorseman wrote:While we're on the topic, why is copper needed for electric poles, and not copper wire?
Agree. I don't like recipes that produce final goods out of raw materials without use of intermediate products. And it's quite logical to use wires instead of copper plates for poles.
small poles use wire, medium and big use plates.

This is because small poles don't need big copper conducting blocks. :roll:

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Rather than removing sticks, why not give them more uses?


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I agree, iron sticks don't really have a purpose in the game, except at being annoying. Some people like tons of intermediate products, but some mods scratch that itch much more than vanilla.

But maybe I'm biased in that I don't really like intermediate products with only few uses :)

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Post by Matthias_Wlkp »

I disagree with OP. I would rather see more use for iron sticks (as other wrote - concrete). The same goes for wood - I would love to see wooden walls and wooden floors.

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I'm in the more uses camp, and there are a few mods which give it more uses. The Bio Industries mod uses it in concrete and Klonan's KS Power mod uses it in construction of wind turbines.

As for wood, yeah, it would be nice to see it get some more uses. Bio Industries has wooden fences and floors. I'd like to use it as input for pyrolysis processes to supplement or replace oil supply instead of just using it for train fuel. Heck, I'm seriously considering making a mod for the job.

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Post by Nulluhrzehn »

The existance of iron stick has made me always produce lamps in even numbers, to not end up with a single iron stick in my inventory xD works great.
But you have a point, it's kinda stupid.


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