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Setting Lazy bastard achievement to bare minimum
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:10 pm
by lamanchy
Hi guys,
I just wanted to try the lazy way and the limit is above the minimum, why so? I mean, unless you do it on 99 items, you're not lazy enough and don't deserve anything.
(And just because of this suggestion I created factorio account, cha, so much work to be really lazy...)
Re: Setting Lazy bastard achievement to bare minimum
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:43 pm
by OdinYggd
The achievement allows some room for error because it isn't exactly obvious what handcrafts are required and what aren't. So you are given a few extra handcrafts above the absolute perfect in order to speed things along and in case you get in a bind and handcrafting one thing would be an easy fix.
I got it myself with 100 handcrafts, so if perfect is actually 99 I couldn't tell you where the extra handcraft cycle went.
Re: Setting Lazy bastard achievement to bare minimum
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:42 pm
by lamanchy
I know, some room is pleasant, in case you craft something "by mistake", but it's like when playing belt challenge, and in case you REALLY don't know, you can use bit of water. For me, it takes away the challenge, especially when 99 is a bit tricky.
It's not even here
https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... _crafting/ and if set to 99 for many people it could be interesting challenge.
But it's just a suggestion
Re: Setting Lazy bastard achievement to bare minimum
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:09 pm
by OdinYggd
lamanchy wrote:I know, some room is pleasant, in case you craft something "by mistake", but it's like when playing belt challenge, and in case you REALLY don't know, you can use bit of water. For me, it takes away the challenge, especially when 99 is a bit tricky.
It's not even here
https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... _crafting/ and if set to 99 for many people it could be interesting challenge.
But it's just a suggestion
Not really a trick- it says right in the boiler recipie to do that.
Re: Setting Lazy bastard achievement to bare minimum
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:10 pm
by daniel34
To my knowledge the minimum is 100, and that already includes using the starter stone furnace. I compiled this list by starting a new game with only the raw materials (plates), then crafted the necessary items and wrote down the crafting queue:
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Wooden pole (3)
1x wooden board
1x copper cable
1x pole
Offshore pump (8)
3x copper cable
2x electric circuit
1x pipe
1x gear wheel
1x offshore pump
Boiler (2)
1x pipe
1x boiler
Steam engine (11)
5x gear wheel
5x pipe
1x steam engine
--> Power setup: 24
Lab (40)
15x copper cable
10x electric circuit
12x gear wheel
2x transport belt
1x lab
Science pack 1 (20)
10x gear wheel
10x science pack 1
--> Science + Automation: 60
Assembling machine 1 (14)
5x copper cable
3x electric circuit
5x gear wheel
1x assembler
Assembling machine 2 (1)
Oil Refinery (1)
--> Machines: 16
24x Power
60x Science
16x Machines
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100 total
That aside I really think the achievement should allow for some room in case you want to make a pickaxe or some additional crafts or simply craft something by accident, or as kovarex put it:
kovarex wrote:I calculated the count of items needed, and it was 101 I believe, so I added 10, so you don't have to painfully wait for ever with one mining drill etc. until the automation 2 is researched.