Yeah, I know that the people behind Wube are trying hard to be different. A lot of companies/developers in the indie sector are trying that... it's basically their selling point. Look at Re-Logic... they still add a lot of free content to Terraria even long after the initial release even they don't have to. They added so much stuff in the aftermath that they could have made it a Terraria 2 already.ssilk wrote:Hm. To go really off-topic: I know the people behind this project. Prague is a nice city, only 400 kilometers away, the bus costs just 20 Euros, I've spent a week or so with them last year.
And what I saw is, that they live, what they always say in the forums. It's hard. But they do it, because that makes sense for them.
Who is not searching for the sense?
Some might say: Those companies with 60 Euros AAA+ games. The just want to make money.
Well, that can also make sense. The problem with the current way, how capitalism works is this: The only sense is to make money and grow. There is no deeper sense, and if someone says "I'm a capitalist, but I believe in god (or similar ideas)", he is just self-deluding. God (or similar ideas) is (for me) the search for the sense.So, logically: If someone says he is a capitalist, he has already found his sense (and doesn't need to add, that he believes in god, cause that would mean, that he is still searching )
So, current big game companies (not only game-companies, I mean really all) are capitalists. That's good! For example: Such games wouldn't be possible without. In other words: They have found their sense.
But the world is changing.
And what I think is, that the world will always need capitalism, sometimes more, sometimes less, but what we currently need are much more companies, that search for more sense, than just making money.
And the Factorio team (Wube) is one of them.
... also I'd never spend 60 bucks on a game anymore without a lot of good reviews or playtesting the game first. If a game in that price range is additionally providing DLCs I'm missing out on purpose because that's just rip-off for content that should be already included in that huge price tag. I mean look at crap EA is selling... a FIFA game every year and they still want 60-100 bucks (with DLCs/Season pass crap) just for switching around a couple of teams between leagues, adding a few names and retiring some others. There's literally no new content and naive people are still buying it. Also they don't have to develop a new graphics engine either since they pretty much re-use the same engine they use for all their game franchizes.
Also I think that Capitalism, especially the banking system giving out credits which can never be paid back without taking another credit and so on, so reserve banks have to print even more money out of thin air to counteract which is unavoidibly leading to massive inflation since the amount of money doesn't reflect the actual amount of real assets anymore... is a concept from the past begging to crumble under itself and should never have been adopted in this widespread fashion in the first place. There are so many loopholes in the system that it's only a matter of time until it collapses like a house of cards. It's as bad as other systems in history have been, like Communism... or an even more hated system I won't even mention here. Basically capitalism is just a "richer" country outsourcing all the problems to "poorer" countries so we don't have to see all the ugly side effects the system is coming with and because the poorer countries can't afford to say no they have to succumb to the demands of the richer ones. And if they decide to say no because they had enough we bring them war, either by military or economical means to subdue them. A lot of people say everything sucks... like working in jobs they hate, being stuck in consumer craze, or just life itself because of lack of perspective since they can't change anything about it anyways... and a good deal of them don't really know who their enemy is in this system. It's the only reason this crap of a system survived into this century. All under the great philosophy of democracy, it's almost unbelieveable that it's our own damn fault that everything is the way it is. Like Goethe said already: "The best slave is the one who thinks he is free." ... In my opinion we are all guilty the same for all the poverty and wars on this planet because we elected the corrupt/corporate politicians who make these kind of decisions for us. People may say what they want... that we have gone a far distance ever since the medieval times when it comes to standards of living, but one thing clearly didn't change: The distribution of wealth and power.
I mean if we talk about Utopia then I pretty much think of things like Star Trek and that's where things should be headed at, though I know some things are pretty much impossible, like replicators... but a lot of todays economy could still be automated or done by robots, eventually becoming a research and artistic society where things are NOT done just for the sake of personal profit but rather because people actually LIKE doing what they do.
But I think if we want to continue that discussion we should take it elsewhere, like in PM or something...