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If we have a cargo wagon with multiple items in it for delivery somewhere else (Like an engineering train or wall-building train) we can have a maximum 12 different items in the train and have them pulled out automatically (one filter inserter per item). Having filterable long-handed inserters would allow us to double that to 24 different items per wagon.

We can easily load 24 different items using long handed inserters, but we can't automatically pull them out.

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,,, aren't there stack filter inserters? you could have different stack filter inserters for different items.

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The stack filter inserters have the same issue as the regular filter inserters. You can still only limit things based on one network condition. This means only one inserter per item being pulled out.

The 40-space cargo wagon can only have 12 maximum types of items and still have them pulled out based on network conditions (6 regular inserters per side). By giving us filtered long-handed inserters, we can increase it to 12 per aide for a total of 24 different items in the cargo wagon that can automatically pulled out based on logic conditions.

We can already load with 24 of them, I just want the functionality to unload with the same number of them.

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scarhoof wrote:The stack filter inserters have the same issue as the regular filter inserters. You can still only limit things based on one network condition. This means only one inserter per item being pulled out.

The 40-space cargo wagon can only have 12 maximum types of items and still have them pulled out based on network conditions (6 regular inserters per side). By giving us filtered long-handed inserters, we can increase it to 12 per aide for a total of 24 different items in the cargo wagon that can automatically pulled out based on logic conditions.

We can already load with 24 of them, I just want the functionality to unload with the same number of them.

What about a long-handed stack filter inserter?

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What about prepending long-handed inserter with a filter inserter, so that long-handed inserter has no choice what to pick?
Still, stacked long-handed inserter is a must in many situations.

To mitigate too-many-inserter-types problem solution could be like that:

Just 3 types of inserters for crafting: burner, simple, long-handed (all slow)

And 3 "module" slots for them:
1. fast (5 green circuits)
2. filter (5 red cirtuits)
3. stacked (5 blue circuits)

+ some UI trick to remember module setting when you place a lot of them.

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Post by Nexela »

Even better! 3 types of inserters

long
short
burner

but they take modules!

efficiency for filters
speed for speed
production for stack size!

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Modules appear too late and consume a lot of time for crafting, you'd want fast inserter much earlier and fast to craft. I'd vote for 3 miniature checkboxes inside inserter icon, game should remember last state of this setting, and apply for both crafting and assembling. green/red/blue circuit cost should match current recipies for filter/stacked types.

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Post by BlakeMW »

The available inserters are part of the puzzle aspect of Factorio. There are mods which add more inserters (or allow configuring inserters).

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What about a 90 degree long handed burner filter stack inserter that also functions as a splitter?

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bobucles wrote:What about a 90 degree long handed burner filter stack inserter that also functions as a splitter?
I raise you one more


180 degree long in short out near side left lane burner filter stack inserter... totally do able with bob's inserters well maybe not the burner part and possibly others

IXX takes items from the second belt and puts them on the inside of the first belt to the north of the inserter. and it does it really fast :)

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bobucles wrote:What about a 90 degree long handed burner filter stack inserter that also functions as a splitter?
That's two more checkboxes on which part is long (2 tiles) and which is short (1 tile).

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