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In v.0.13 method of connecting circuit wires changed. Before we connected entities one to another in chain (A-B, B-C, C-D) without dropping wires. Now we connect one selected entity witch others (A-B, A-C, A-D) and if we want to connect in chain we have to connect A-B, press Q, connect B-C, press Q, connect C-D.



Actual method for me it's impractical because in 90% cases I connect entities in chains because it's more elegant and clear. It's looks like messy connections in previous version (maybe it was 0.9) when we could connect entities only to poles.

So I suggest to bring back connection method and make it optional/swappable.

Totally agree, new behaviour is terribly inconvenient and produces over complicated highly entangled builds.

I even began to write my own suggestion, but then I found this one. I will post my videos here to clarify the differences:

XKnight wrote:Totally agree, new behaviour is terribly inconvenient and produces over complicated highly entangled builds.

true enough...

Also, am I the only one who is disturbed with the new combinator graphics?
What do you think about this? (I copy-pasted "∗" symbol from 0.12 and pasted into 0.13)

XKnight wrote:Also, am I the only one who is disturbed with the new combinator graphics?
What do you think about this? (I copy-pasted "∗" symbol from 0.12 and pasted into 0.13)

Your not alone...

I +1 the suggestion of bringing chaining back, but the new behaviour is also useful sometimes, so it should be active when a modifier is held down (like ctrl or alt).

In most cases, chaining is more convenient, especially when you need to connect long rows of chests and inserters. It also mirrors the behaviour when connecting poles (interestingly this has not changed in 0.13), and after all we all got used to it.

The new combinator graphics (symbols on top) disturbed me for a short while, but I got used to them quickly. They're not better or worse than the old ones, but they fit the graphical theme of the game a bit better.

XKnight wrote:Totally agree, new behaviour is terribly inconvenient and produces over complicated highly entangled builds.

I even began to write my own suggestion, but then I found this one. I will post my videos here to clarify the differences:

0.13 Awful wiring

0.12 Elegant and beautiful wiring

the picts are missing - anyhow I have filed a bug report.

Yes bring the old circuits back, it was much more convenient to handle large networks of cable

also:

I +1 the suggestion of bringing chaining back, but the new behaviour is also useful sometimes, so it should be active when a modifier is held down (like ctrl or alt).

yes but if you want to have the new setup (that is easy understand) you could just do so by connecting the wires one by one manually i.e. connect one wire and press q and then repeat. It could probably be easier ways to program this but it was still possible in 0.12

It's a lot more common that you want to run chains of wire than fan-out configurations. However, sometimes it's very convenient to be able to create fan-outs (the current default behaviour in 0.13). So I'd like to have both, but the default should be the 0.12 chaining, and the fan-out should be triggered with a modifier key.

That would give us the best of both worlds.

siggboy wrote:So I'd like to have both, but the default should be the 0.12 chaining, and the fan-out should be triggered with a modifier key.

Exactly how it should be in the first place.

siggboy wrote:So I'd like to have both, but the default should be the 0.12 chaining, and the fan-out should be triggered with a modifier key.

+1