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Its really really frustrating when im trying to design some belt layouts and the belts either curve when i want them straight (for side loading) or wont curve the specific direction i want.

And what is your suggestion to improve that?

Exactly what I said in the subject line. Belt orientations need to be explicit. Using the rotate button you go through all 12 orientations explicitly rather than go through 4, with the 8 curved orientations being a decision the game makes that you have no control over.

I feel that it's fine exactly as is.

But to build on the suggestion that's at hand, you could make the curved belts a separate object. It seems more realistic, since you can rotate straight belts to any orientation, but actual curved pieces need to be a different object. How to have them made is a trivial matter I leave up to you.

I know it's annoying at first but usually it just takes 1 extra belt to fix issues like that. Not sure if it's intentional or not though as it's just a simple logistic problem to solve in a game about solving logistics problems.

If it did end up getting changed then I would want something like keep R how it is now but Shift+R would cycle all 12 directions and force place a belt to keep it from auto changing.
-1 towards having curved belts as a separate item

The solution for that "problem" could be adding function to connect/disconnect belts (it could be "G" key like for trains). So when you build curved belt (https://i.gyazo.com/fe64619d6252236492c ... 585dcc.png), just move cursor above and press "G" to make it straight (https://i.gyazo.com/64e4621a4f899856ac4 ... 01be1f.png). Press "G" again and it become curve again.

Of course for me it's not a real problem in the first place.

The belt is the simplest think in the whole game and before changing anything there it's better to improve more complicated stuff.

I also don't see the problem here because managing belts and their directions is the base of this game.
It's like this thread about the corner speed...

Greetings steinio

The convenience of curving belts outweights the inconvenience of sifting through 12 belt sprites.

You can force a belt to side load on a turn by making a T-junction.

seronis wrote:Exactly what I said in the subject line. Belt orientations need to be explicit. Using the rotate button you go through all 12 orientations explicitly rather than go through 4, with the 8 curved orientations being a decision the game makes that you have no control over.

I don't see the sense in his suggestion, cause it replaces a simple system (4 directions of belt plus a handful of rules under which circumstances a belt connects with another belt) with something which is in every case more complicated to handle. Think to the 8 directions of the rails, which is in my opinion hard to the limit of what is useful.

So there is just no game value - in other words: this change doesn't make the game better, it fixes only a problem which can also be solved with a better tutorial.

I'm sorry, but I tend to move this to Won't Implement.

It's perfect the way it is now.