Sorting savegames (was: Save game system)

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Sorting savegames (was: Save game system)

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I would like to suggest having the save list sort-able by either most recent or by file name. Additionally when saving a previously loaded game, the file name box should be filled with the game name that was loaded.

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I would like to add my support to this novel idea of Sorting Saves by Date.
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When I return to Factorio and look at my recent save games, I have maybe 2-3 dozens collected during early access, these are sorted by name. Instead, I want the most recent up top. Right now, I have to click every single save game and review the details infos to see map version and infer or guess somehow how old the game is. The date is not even shown there. Another workaround would be to always include a date in the save game name. But as games evolve, the date should change as well, and this would leave many outdated save games of a same game but with older dates around. Am I missing something here? :?

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Allow the load game list to be sorted by date/time (displaying the save date/time along with the "playtime" in the details window would also be nice).

I'll often save, do some testing before "switching on" a part of a factory, then reload (or quit) and forget which my last save is. Coming back to a game the following weekend, "continue _autosave2" is the continue option and all saved games are displayed in alphabetical order.

I don’t have a great memory and end up clicking though many saves checking their "playtime" value - though this is not 100% reliable as I have saves from older games, or just look until something jogs my memory (e.g. my last save was called "New Oil" - I finished oil last weekend so have been re-using it despite having moved on).

I would have thought that given the choice of one order and no sort, last save date would be the preference. At least this seems to be the most common case I’ve seen in video games.

However this is not a big deal, just a minor inconvenience and I'm still enjoying the game regardless.

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[Koub] Merged several threads with the same suggestion.
Additionally, here are some other topics with related subjects :
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=76108 (ingame save game manager)
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33119 (sort saves by "factory")
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=80796 (sort by creation date)

Other suggestions on save management and ordering were made in this thread :
viewtopic.php?f=66&t=47857 (originally started because it was terribly easy to overwrite a save without noticing it at that time).
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[GUI] Option to sort savegames by date

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TL;DR
On the "Load Game/Save Game" GUI, give the option to sort savegame by date.

What ?
Keeping the classic alphabetical sort on the savegame as the default sort is the right thing.
However, using a chronological order on the savegame would be good too, as more often than not, the recently accessed files are the one that will be loaded or saved on the most often, regardless of the name
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Stupid save names are stupid, I know. "Sauvé le" is French for "Saved on :"

This option is so practical that there is already a shortcut for the very latest save, in the main menu, as it is arguably the most frequent use case.
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Why ?
It will be easier to retrieve the latest version of various campaign run, because I juggle from on type of game to the next. I do not think I'm alone in doing that.

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[Koub] Merged into older topic with same suggestion.
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Show Date/Time of Saves in Load UI

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Hi!

Among the information shown for each save, such as duration played, map version, mods etc, a quite basic thing seen in most games I know is missing: Date and Time of the Save.
-> I have to check the file modification timestamp in the file system outside the game to know when a particular save was saved.

Add for 1.1 please? 8-)

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[Koub] Merged into older very similar suggestion.
Also, similar suggestion, but with creation time/date : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=80796.
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I changed the subject of this thread.
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OK, I did not realize there is more complexity to this.

All I wish for to be added is to display the timestamp of a save underneath "play time".

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I once was wishing for that too and found a simple but yet very practical approach. I hope this works on windows, too, and easens up things for you.

Open your file browser and navigate to your saves folder. Create a sub-folders. They are shown ingame and are sorted alphabetically above the saves in the main save folder.

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To open the save game folder in (preferred way of your OS) is another of those quick and high game value suggestions.
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ssilk wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:19 am
To open the save game folder in (preferred way of your OS) is another of those quick and high game value suggestions.
A game needing to fiddle with the file explorer to manage savegame files is, in my opinion, a very bad design indicator.
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Koub wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:35 am
A game needing to fiddle with the file explorer to manage savegame files is, in my opinion, a very bad design indicator.
I get the point, and I partially agree, but I like being able to interfere by using my OS, too.

Like when doing backups of a game (even if it were only for settings and saves), I'd like to do it via data browser or backup software of my choice. Of course, that means I have to locate the essential files first. But I can't remember one game that has a "export and backup settings and saves for next use in a few years" function.

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tamanous wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:42 am
Koub wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:35 am
A game needing to fiddle with the file explorer to manage savegame files is, in my opinion, a very bad design indicator.
I get the point, and I partially agree, but I like being able to interfere by using my OS, too.

Like when doing backups of a game (even if it were only for settings and saves), I'd like to do it via data browser or backup software of my choice. Of course, that means I have to locate the essential files first. But I can't remember one game that has a "export and backup settings and saves for next use in a few years" function.
I totally agree with you. I don't want to need explorer fiddling for my everyday needs, but I want to be free to access the save files for backup (or transfer to another computer) purpose. In the current state, the second part of my needs is totally fulfilled. The saves are accessible easily and can be backed up freely.
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