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...or, at least, make it so that we can choose in the options somewhere to default to either Nauvis, or wherever the platform currently is in orbit over (or perhaps on its way to), rather than just Nauvis by default.

I see a decent amount of discussion on this forum about the "Import from" interface being a bit clunky, but what I don't like about it is that it seems that the Import from setting defaults to importing everything from Nauvis, save for the few things that can only be produced on specific planets. I suppose I got the impression ingrained in me that the default was wherever the platform currently was, since when I was first learning how to configure orbital requests, it was specifically for stuff that can only be made on Vulcanus, and so the default would be from Vulcanus, since only Foundries can be produced there for example (though, and I point out, surely there is some odd duck out there who needs to import Foundries from Nauvis for some reason). Then, when I started to get more comfortable with the system overall, it seemed to come as a bit of a surprise to me that I'd put through requests for something where I knew the platform was, but the item isn't uniquely produced on that planet, so it would request them from Nauvis. A few extra clicks and I can fix it, but, you know, it's a few extra clicks a whole lot of times once you're really comfortable with the system.

That confusion is on me for not being observant, but I think maybe it would make the Import from interface a little more intuitive if it would just default to importing from whatever planet the platform is orbiting over, since that's likely the planet it will be orbiting over when you are setting it up. And even if you're a real power user and will set up a platform's solar system-wide logistic requests, well, I would think a power user would probably just send the platform over to that planet to set up its import requests from there.

Alternatively, perhaps it would be good too if you could set the default planet that a request will import from based on what logistic group you create the request within. That's how I'm separating logistic groups myself already, by planet, and I imagine I'm not alone in that, so if every new request I create in that group were to default to one planet, it would make the most sense to me, anyway. And if there are any exceptions for the logic there and you would want to keep an import request for Nauvis in your Fulgora logistic group for some reason, well, it's still less clicking around to configure a few exceptional cases.

Perhaps even the most big brained solution here would be for the default Import from option be set to whichever planet has the most of that item available on the planet's logistic network when you open the interface to create the request, which is *probably* going to be the right answer *most* of the time, and as such, result in the least need for manually setting it. I dunno what it would do if, say, there was a tie between two planets, which isn't even all that unlikely, given that stack sizes and storage container sizes being consistent make it far from unlikely that one could be storing the same amount of something on two planets at any given time.

I think a simple default to current planet would be great. (If the platform is travelling however, then default to the destination planet).
Having different defaults for different items is just confusing. As it is, I keep forgetting to update the planet when making import requests for some reason (not sure if I'm just blind or the UI needs to be more obvious).

I think an even better way to do this would to have items that can be crafted anywhere defaulting to the current planet, while items that have crafting, or spawn (for ores and their immediate intermidiaries) places restrctions default to the planet where they can come from.

i think it should be deducted from the first planet icon in the name of the logistic group. or maybe to make it more explicit, just make it selectable for a logistic group, instead of having to select it for each individual import... i think this would lead to the best experience for most players.

bullipatty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:29 am i think it should be deducted from the first planet icon in the name of the logistic group. or maybe to make it more explicit, just make it selectable for a logistic group, instead of having to select it for each individual import... i think this would lead to the best experience for most players.

Except your might want a logistic group that imports things from different planets.

IsaacOscar wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:37 am Except your might want a logistic group that imports things from different planets.

and how would any of the other suggestions be better in that scenario?... want to send your ship to each planet before configuring imports for it? why not in the case you you don't need a group that's actually associated with a planet: set planet in group, configure imports for planet, set different planet, configure imports for planet etc, and at the end you middle click the groups planet setting and the default it's unset...?

bullipatty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 11:20 am

IsaacOscar wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 10:37 am Except your might want a logistic group that imports things from different planets.

and how would any of the other suggestions be better in that scenario?... want to send your ship to each planet before configuring imports for it? why not set planet in group, configure imports for planet, set different planet, configure imports for planet etc?

Ok sure, just strange if there's a "planet" set in the group, but it doesn't apply to all the entries in the group.

then unset it after...

I'm straight against the default import from.

It should not default to anything really, just keep stored the last selected one. Having to re-select it is just terrible.
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I got the idea where some items would only be made in X planet, so let's default it in the export menu so players don't have to

I can see how that could be the intention, but that throw away the rest 99% of the game that can be made anywhere.

It would be much better if it just stayed in the last used planet. Even the current planet would be a bad second option, simple because one doesn't set the requests when you arrive to each planet, usually you make your route in planet X, that would default everything to that planet while probably only less than 1% of the items would actually be from there.

The amount of unnecessary clicks to set 10 requests for common items from any planet that is not Nauvis, require one to select the same planet 10 times or more, if you select quality after, it also resets.

Just like circuit signals and requester items also get reset when changing it viewtopic.php?f=6&t=123343, it is painful annoying. It should just not do anything.

You have selected Fulgora to load whatever, then next item you add to the import will also be on Fulgora, that simplify things. Now you are done with your Fulgora requests, add your first Item for Vulcanus, now all subsequent items will also have Vulcanus, it is that simple, one changes the planet only when you actually want to change it.

Sworn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:10 pm I'm straight against the default import from.

It should not default to anything really, just keep stored the last selected one. It is just terrible.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=119645

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=121925

I got the idea where some items would only be made in X planet, so let's default it in the export menu so players don't have to

I can see how that could be the intention, but that throw away the rest 99% of the game that can be made anywhere.

It would be much better if it just stayed in the last used planet. Even the current planet would be a bad second option, simple because one doesn't set the requests when you arrive to each planet, usually you make your route in planet X, that would default everything to that planet while probably only less than 1% of the items would actually be from there.

The amount of unnecessary clicks to set 10 requests for common items from any planet that is not Nauvis, require one to select the same planet 10 times or more, if you select quality after, it also resets.

Just like circuit signals and requester items also get reset when changing it viewtopic.php?f=6&t=123343, it is painful annoying. It should just not do anything.

You have selected Fulgora to load whatever, then next item you add to the import will also be on Fulgora, that simplify things. Now you are done with your Fulgora requests, add your first Item for Vulcanus, now all subsequent items will also have Vulcanus, it is that simple, one changes the planet only when you actually want to change it.

You know what, I reckon now that it should just not let you put the request until you manually select the planet, just like you need to select the item you're requesting in the first place.

IsaacOscar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:18 pm You know what, I reckon now that it should just not let you put the request until you manually select the planet, just like you need to select the item you're requesting in the first place.

That doesn't change anything, if you want to request something that is not from Nauvis, you still have to keep selecting the same planet every single time.
Just like having to re select the quality every single time.

If the game remembers what you just have used, that would not be an issue.

Sure, it doesn't prevent anyone from doing anything, it works as is, but it is just terrible, as you want to make more ships and more requests, became exponentially annoying to have to keep re-selecting the planet, its like they made everything based on having Nauvis as the only main planet, and the only thing anyone should import from other planets would be that planet specific item, that is the only scenario where the default import from actually helps.

Sworn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:22 pm

IsaacOscar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 30, 2024 3:18 pm You know what, I reckon now that it should just not let you put the request until you manually select the planet, just like you need to select the item you're requesting in the first place.

That doesn't change anything, if you want to request something that is not from Nauvis, you still have to keep selecting the same planet every single time.
Just like having to re select the quality every single time.

If the game remembers what you just have used, that would not be an issue.

Sure, it doesn't prevent anyone from doing anything, it works as is, but it is just terrible, as you want to make more ships and more requests, became exponentially annoying to have to keep re-selecting the planet, its like they made everything based on having Nauvis as the only main planet, and the only thing anyone should import from other planets would be that planet specific item, that is the only scenario where the default import from actually helps.

Fair enough, my experience has been that I keep forgetting to select the planet.

But usually when setting a request, the platforms on that planet already, or travelling to it.

You should use the issue template for suggestion. It's too much text right now even for a player to read.