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Update on close (without Steam)

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Currently the game the popup about updating the game is shown after it has been completely loaded. Especially when a number of mods are enabled, starting the game one time can already be a bit of a wait... So often I find myself skipping the update, thinking I will go through this process when I finished playing (finished??? yeah right...), but usually I have forgotten about the update by then, only to be reminded about it when firing up factorio again.

Obviously I don't know about the updating internals, but it would be really nice if
  • There's a choice to download the update, but not restart, so the update will be applied when starting the next time. Or...
  • There's a choice to update on close. So when the game is finally closed, the download will be done and applied.
This would also bring down the number of restarts when both factorio and the mods need updating...

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For single player this makes sense. For multiplayer this is useless.

Has low gameplay-value.
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How about an option to remove that annoying popup every damn time I start game? I do not care about new version, that's why I play version I play.

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cpy wrote:
Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:20 am
How about an option to remove that annoying popup every damn time I start game? I do not care about new version, that's why I play version I play.
Yeah, they could even call that option "Check for updates when launching" or something descriptive so that nobody could overlook it.

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Loewchen wrote:
Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:30 pm
cpy wrote:
Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:20 am
How about an option to remove that annoying popup every damn time I start game? I do not care about new version, that's why I play version I play.
Yeah, the could even call that option "Check for updates when launching" or something descriptive so that nobody could overlook it.
There is? I have to check that!

I tried to find it but couldn't find it anywhere. Are you sure it's on steam version?

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Definitely there in the GoG/standalone version, it's in the "Other" section. If anything, steam should be the version most likely to allow turning that off, as steam updates tend to be timely and automatic.
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cpy wrote:
Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:20 am
How about an option to remove that annoying popup every damn time I start game? I do not care about new version, that's why I play version I play.
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cpy wrote:
Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:20 am
How about an option to remove that annoying popup every damn time I start game? I do not care about new version, that's why I play version I play.
what an edgy way to hijack a thread! just never close the game down and it'll never bug you.
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Boardy wrote:
Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:14 pm
Currently the game the popup about updating the game is shown after it has been completely loaded. Especially when a number of mods are enabled, starting the game one time can already be a bit of a wait... So often I find myself skipping the update, thinking I will go through this process when I finished playing (finished??? yeah right...), but usually I have forgotten about the update by then, only to be reminded about it when firing up factorio again.
I admit I like it on startup. I know my experience is biased by the fact that I don't like playing modded, so things are quite fast. Usually, when I'm playing and I quit is when I'm turning the computer off (go/get back to work or to bed). I wouldn't like the update to take place at that moment. It's different for the OS, where I can tell it to update and shutdown, but for the game, I'd have to wait for it to update before actually shutting down the computer. And I wouldn't want that.
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This is generally implemented :
- Either by the OS update manager (if it has one) and if the program can be trusted to be updated in the background
(Not the case for Factorio for me - I always copy the whole folder before updating, *especially* for modded factorio games.)
- Or by using a launcher that phones home to check - and most of these (including Steam, which has lotsss of other bloat too like a whole OS-independent game updating system !) have a bad reputation because of all those companies that made them non-optional !

Alternatively, you could also sacrifice some disk space to cache Factorio startup to make it faster (on subsequent starts, if there are no game or mod changes) :

Some people report it speeds up startup 6-7 times on heavily modded games !
Why can't data/atlas caching not be turned on from the GUI? (It can.)
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(I personally don't use that because I don't restart that often and I would forget erasing the cache on factorio game folders I no longer play.)

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After rethinking, I could imagine a “splittend” close button. E.g. the close button in the main menu looks like 2 buttons: a left big part which takes 9/10 and does what it is doing yet and the small 1/10 on the right has an arrow down.

When clicking on it it has two options:
- update game & installed mods, don’t close game
- update game & installed mods, then close game

In both cases it shows for some seconds,what it will do yet.
“Update game: lookup new version”
“Downloading new version” or “no new version available”
“Rebooting”
“List of mods for update”
“Download mod …”
“Rebooting”
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well obviously we need a group of 30 buttons and one for every scenario
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Obviously… two buttons. 8-)
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