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[Not a bug] [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:57 am
by eradicator
What?
Instead of listing me as "hidden: n" the forum still lists my name even though i have the option active.
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Further observations
Yesterday i noticed that there are at least some people for who it works, because the list said "hidden: 2", but for me it doesn't work even after flipping the flag on/off and logging off/on after that. I also thought for a moment that after logging off one of the hidden users disappeared (implying that i'm listed as both named and hidden) but as that's not the case now it seems to be a misobservation. I also can't test if my name is only shown to me personally because names aren't listed at all when not logged in (i.e. from a second browser).

Expected behavior
The list should simply add me to "hiddden: n" instead of showing my name.

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:59 am
by Koub
Are you sure you should be hidden to yourself ?

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:50 am
by eradicator
Koub wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:59 am
Are you sure you should be hidden to yourself ?
I'm only sure that's how it behaved before the update. But as stated i can't test because the whole "who is online" feature isn't shown when not logged in.

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:07 pm
by darkfrei
eradicator wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:50 am
Koub wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:59 am
Are you sure you should be hidden to yourself ?
I'm only sure that's how it behaved before the update. But as stated i can't test because the whole "who is online" feature isn't shown when not logged in.
viewonline.php
There are 9 registered users and 2 hidden users online

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:18 pm
by Sanqui
Hidden users can see themselves online but to others they do appear hidden. You can easily test this yourself by opening a private window and see "1 hidden". Not a bug :)

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:48 pm
by eradicator
Sanqui wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:18 pm
Hidden users can see themselves online but to others they do appear hidden. You can easily test this yourself by opening a private window and see "1 hidden". Not a bug :)
No, i can not "easily test" this, because the list of users is not show at all when not logged in (saying this for the 3rd time...)[That's fine btw, i'm not at all saying the list should be shown, just that it's not possible to verify this that way]. "X hidden" doesn't tell me if that's me or not (otherwise it'd be pointless wouldn't it :p). The only way to verify this would be to make a fake account and look at the list of names. If you say it's working and it's just showing me to myself (which is also pointless, because i'm pretty sure i know that i'm online when i'm online...) then i guess i have to believe you (until such time where i decided to make a fake account to test it).

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:20 pm
by Koub
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There are 10 registered, 1 hidden, and 141 unregistered (or unauthentified).
However I can count 11 names, including 1 staff, 2 bots, and 1 name in italics.

I don't understand the differences and how all this is counted.

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:49 pm
by Sanqui
eradicator, please, feel free to make a fake account and test. I did, and it worked as expected (I did not see my main account in the list of names when hidden).

It would, however, appear that mods and admins can see hidden accounts (they are in italics). I hope this is not too big of a deal.

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:54 pm
by Pi-C
Koub wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:20 pm
2018-10-19 15_14_26-Factorio Forums - Index page.jpg

There are 10 registered, 1 hidden, and 141 unregistered (or unauthentified).
However I can count 11 names, including 1 staff, 2 bots, and 1 name in italics.

I don't understand the differences and how all this is counted.
In another forum I use (also based on phpBB), I have your status of "Global Moderator". With this, I can see the name of all users logged in, even if they are invisible to others. The names of "hidden" users are displayed in italics, so I guess it will be the same here. BTW: I'm always invisible in that other forum, and I see my name in bold (because I'm a moderator) italics (because I'm invinc^H^Hsible). Guess it is similar here …

Re: [Bug] "Hide my online status" does nothing

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:59 pm
by eradicator
@Koub:
Referencing that with what i see i can deduce: Every name is counted as "registered" (incl. bots) except for the "hidden" ones, which are counted seperately. And italics are hidden.

@Sanqui:
I believe you when you say it works. I was just stating that this is not at all easy to verify without a fake account (it is infact impossible without one).
@mods-see-all: Considering how often i talk to devs and mods (*cough* right now *cough*) i'm not sure how much of a concern that is ;).