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Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:40 am
by provet
Would be soooo much easier if all the combinator topics were gathered in one place not just to keep them all in one place, but to avoid flooding general/help/gameplay sub-forums when they could all be in their own.

It could be anything combinator, really but:
showing off creations
ask for help regarding combs
talk about tips and tricks
discuss combinators in general
just anything else combinator related.



Then I'd have a place to post this filter (wip) and ask if anyone knows how to solve the filtering issues I'm having with this design :D
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Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:41 am
by brunzenstein
provet wrote:Would be soooo much easier if all the combinator topics were gathered in one place, just for showing off creations, ask for help, talk about tips and tricks, discuss combinators in general, or just anything else combinator related.
I sign that!

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:59 am
by ssilk
Hm. I see the point.
How about "Show my Creations / Combinators" ?

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:01 am
by brunzenstein
ssilk wrote:Hm. I see the point.
How about "Show my Creations / Combinators" ?
YES

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:05 am
by provet
ssilk wrote:Hm. I see the point.
How about "Show my Creations / Combinators" ?

You mean as in integrating combinator related topics into the already established "Show my Creations" sub-forum?

Not sure, I'd like to have it clean with only combinator related things tho, but I guess I'll take what I can get :)

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:19 am
by brunzenstein
provet wrote:
ssilk wrote:Hm. I see the point.
How about "Show my Creations / Combinators" ?

You mean as in integrating combinator related topics into the already established "Show my Creations" sub-forum?

Not sure, I'd like to have it clean with only combinator related things tho, but I guess I'll take what I can get :)
Yes - a separate dedicated forum, not a subforum.
Named "combinators problems/solutions/strategies"

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:03 pm
by ssilk
I thought a bit about it. I think we should not make that without a moderator for that, cause it is so extremely special. Me for example would be able to look a bit over it, but for details or deeper investigation I don't have the knowledge.

So if we have a moderator for that, then it will be kept clean. Some candidates for this job here?

And the other problem: Is it more something like "Show your creations" or "Contributions"?
More input please. :)

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:46 pm
by provet
ssilk wrote:I thought a bit about it. I think we should not make that without a moderator for that, cause it is so extremely special. Me for example would be able to look a bit over it, but for details or deeper investigation I don't have the knowledge.

So if we have a moderator for that, then it will be kept clean. Some candidates for this job here?

And the other problem: Is it more something like "Show your creations" or "Contributions"?
More input please. :)


I'd like it for a common meeting place for veterans and newbies alike to share and gain new knowledge about combinators. In a way, like the modding discussion sub-forum, a way to discuss and discover how the combinators can enhance the game.

As for moderators, me myself lacking in both combinator knowledge and time to moderate, how about putting up a Wanted poster for combinator moderators? :D

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:11 pm
by brunzenstein
ssilk wrote:I thought a bit about it. I think we should not make that without a moderator for that, cause it is so extremely special.


Why not without a moderator? No need at all.
Its so special that only real buffs would post there.
And if some whacko should enter there and disturb its always the possibility to announce to the global moderators and close the forum.
I would try it unmoderated and let nature take its course...

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:24 pm
by provet
brunzenstein wrote:
ssilk wrote:I thought a bit about it. I think we should not make that without a moderator for that, cause it is so extremely special.


Why not without a moderator? No need at all.
Its so special that only real buffs would post there.
And if some whacko should enter there and disturb its always the possibility to announce to the global moderators and close the forum.
I would try it unmoderated and let nature take its course...

I don't really see a problem with this. The middle ground could be to just have an.. "ordinary" moderator for this sub.

Apart from some ground rules about posting (Only Combinator/logic related topics) as well as the global forum rules and it should be fine.

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:33 am
by siggboy
OK, so I've been in touch with ssilk about that and he relayed to me as well that he's up for the idea but needs a moderator (asking me if I'd do it).

I agree with Brunzenstein here: We should establish a forum first, and see how things go. If we need organization (a moderator), one will be appointed. I'd be willing to volunteer if nobody else wants the job more.

@ssilk: If having a mod for the sub-forum is a hard requirement for you, then I'll do it. I'd prefer to have a separate forum account though for that task, if that is possible. I don't want to be a blue or green poster when I'm having one of my opinionated rants.

The question now is, where to put the forum. Do we make it a subforum of something else, or do we put it at the top level?

My suggestion for the forum name: Combinatorio Welcome to Combinator land. CPUs, digital displays, crazy contraptions, discuss all things Combinator here

I really think at first it's enough for one simple section called Combinatorio, either at the top level or maybe below General Discussion or Show Your Creations. Top level might be best, unless that's considered too crowded.

What do you guys think?

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:05 am
by ssilk
I really like the name. Yes, I think moderator is currently just an option.

What is more useful: under

[ ] Contributions or under

[ ] Show your Creations?

(or better idea?)

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:32 am
by siggboy
To be honest I don't think there's a top level category that really fits (except "General" of course).

It's not only about showing creations, it's also about general discussion, geeking off, publishing projects (CPU, train scheduler, whatever else there might be).

So any category you'd pick would be kind of wrong.

Therefore I say: put it under General if you have to, but another top level forum would be best, to be honest. I know there are many already, but in my opinion this is a spot that needs to be easy to find. I think there are lots of players who are interested in this, even though most are not going in-depth on the topic.

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 3:58 pm
by provet
+1 Image!

(remove gif if it's unallowed here)

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:02 pm
by brunzenstein
+2

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:03 pm
by ssilk
Hm.... two more ideas (will not be implemented, I just want to see a tendency for the long term-plan):

- A new board below "Support". Everything else identical to new board below "Contributions".

- The big plan: A completely new Main-Category (Same Level like General, Support ...) named "X-torio". Below "Combinatorio", "Elektrokatorio", "Lokomotorio", .... plus move of "Show your Creations" and "Maps and Scenarios" into there (both can be linked from the old places into there).

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:33 pm
by siggboy
Yes, it would be good to have a main category to discuss the game proper. The categories you've mentioned are good examples

The Locomotion (Trains and railroads) "Choo, choo! Design a pretty railroad but don't become roadkill."
Combinatorio "Welcome to Combinator land. CPUs, digital displays, crazy contraptions, discuss all things Combinator here"
On the Factory Floor (Factory designs) "May your assemblers never idle and your liquids always flow."
Power On (Energy)
Biters are Hungry (Combat and defense)
Super-Size Me (Megabase Designs)

(I don't have flavour text for everything, but you get the picture :)

Trains and railroads; Combinators; Factory designs; Energy; Combat and defense; Megabases

All of these could be under 1 top-level category (maybe called "Play the Game").

Support->Gameplay help should also be under "Play the Game", and maybe called "This Is All New to Me" or just "General".

The names I've suggested are a bit more easy going than the very clinical names we have right now. It's a computer game, after all. It's, of course, only a suggestion.

Then you'd have what's now the "General" category only for META topics, like releases, news, and what else is there now.

"Show your Creations" and "General" are too, well, "general". They should not even exist in my opinions, because everybody tends to dump their stuff in there and you end up with no organization again.

"Factorio Direction" and "Contributions" BTW look fine in my opinion.

Oh, another thing: the flavor text of the various categories could need some spicing up. Some of them are redundant (they just repeat what the forum title tells you already). It's not so easy to come up with something easy-going that's not cliched or cheesy, though. I've tried with my suggestion for the "Combinatorio" flavour text above. I think all the new game related categories (Trains, etc.) could use a flavour text like that.

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 5:55 am
by brunzenstein
siggboy wrote:
+1

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:22 am
by ssilk
I'm burried in some work for the past 2 and next 1-2 days, this is not forgotten.

I don't see me as "driver" of this topic, so if someone wants to increase progress of this discussion feel free. Advertising in other boards. :)

Would be useful, if some dev could also write an opinion.

Re: Idea: New Sub-forum for all combinator related topics!

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 7:31 am
by siggboy
Well, you are the "driver" :). Like it or non, hah.

Of course you can always simply do what we tell you to do :lol: :lol: