The Hydra Dilemma - A Coop Factorio Playthrough!

[Xterminator]

Episode #52, 5th Times The Charm... is live now! Enjoy.

[JoshLittle]

To the contrary I see both as advantage. If a field gives 1,000,000 ores over it's lifetime it makes no difference if the first or the last minutes of its lifetime are "empty" (from the standpoint of the destination). From the point on when the first item of a full belt arrives, the time of the usage begins for me. It's only important that the belt stays full and last as long as possible. Thats also why I place the miners with 2 gaps and without any speed modules. If the ore is on the loooooong input belt or still in the field makes no difference for me. If I need more ore then I setup a second belt (and make an input buffer near the destination, which can be smaler as longer the belt is). I let time work on my side and not fight against it. Really, why should I count from the moment on it is mined?

For clarity: My belts are all inside the walls. Faster transport in regard of safety is not the point. Since I switch to trains I see no advantage in them. Before I set up a field with miners, balance the one or two outputs of it, set up the one or two transport belts, remanage the balance of the incoming directions from different fields and after a while I just revisited the field to replace some miners to fully clear the area and go to the next field for which the existing belt could be a good use. Since I have trains I find me spending hours with micromanagement. More fields = more trains = new strategy for unloading. In the ore buffer copper is dropping down, iron shots through the roof = Revisiting all copper fields and check the situation or rebalance the loading of copper/iron on multi-loading-stations or change the order of stations that are not strong enough to fill the wagons to the top, .... With belts I just saw early when a belt looses density.

But I think the discussion is a bit far away from the hydra dilemma

[HeilTec]

The edutainment value of this series is very high. The videos have very varying composition due to the 5 different personalities participating. Reading comments and this thread only adds to the value.

Remember a smart person learns from their mistakes, a wise person learns from the mistakes of others.

The trains vs. belts discussion by ssilk and DaveMcW shows how inspiring a series like this can be.

(Hoping for the next episode soon ...)

[Junion]

Bah I kept watching for that link on here..and I just never saw it, aparently I ignored the first post her e-.-.

Well editing my post to remove the link, so there isn't redundancy confusion.

[JoshLittle]

It might already be up..and just hiding <.<
The Hydra Delemma #52

Xterminator hided it three posts before you

[Xterminator]

Hehe yeah I'm sneaky like that. :p

[FKODgaming]

Latest episode is currently live http://youtu.be/tjQymLivXwI

Feedback is always appreciated .

[Junion]

Yaaay! I saw stuff...erm anyway to give a real reply..lets spoiler this.

Spoilers

Yeah, speeding up the belts has kind of been a thing that's been going on lately. Getting more ore production, getting the belts to go through faster, etc. With that said, I think that looked to have helped the iron plates a bit...but I think the real bottleneck is in turning ore into plates....that would probably involve upgrading furnaces, upgrading the inserters, and perhaps even adding more furnaces. I think overall someone needs to add extra production -somewhere- or make the old useless or something.

Honestly I'm a newbie myself still, and most of what I've learned has come from watching you 5 playing . So it's very possible the issue is elsewhere.

[DaveMcW]

The best long-term strategy is to

Spoiler

build a new base to reduce the strain on the current system.

Of course that would take more than 20 minutes, so no one considers it.

[HeilTec]

I like numbers: 53 episodes has generated 388 answers averaging over 7 including the posters.
They must be doing something right.

[-root]

Episode 54 is up!

As the title says, i think i was really helpfully unhelpful

Best of luck Fish.

[FishSandwich]

I like numbers: 53 episodes has generated 388 answers averaging over 7 including the posters.
They must be doing something right.

Not including reddit and YouTube comments.

[HeilTec]

I like numbers...

Not including reddit and YouTube comments.

Very happy counting

[FishSandwich]

Fish the.. Sandwich?! - Factorio - The Hydra Dilemma #55

Enjoy.

[Junion]

Guys...I think the fish is starting to lose it again...slowly..

-Root be nice to him...we don't want the base blown up..again.

[Xecutor]

Actually it's a miracle that you guys made it so far with so freaking poor defenses.
Nice episode Fishheaded Fish

[DerivePi]

And that is why someone disconnected the power to the oil production outpost.

[_aD]

Loved ep55 Fishster. Your most entertaining one yet, had me giggling away to myself in the first five minutes :-D

[JoshLittle]

I am surprised it didn't happen yet to the copper outpost

For your last question: I'm asking that myself for the whole episode

[-root]

-Root be nice to him...we don't want the base blown up..again.

That's not happening

Actually it's a miracle that you guys made it so far with so freaking poor defenses.

Refer Rule #2 of unwritten rules of playing factorio. If its dumb and it works, it ain't so dumb