[0.18] Need suggestions/feedback for a WIP reskin mod...

[kirazy]

The layer shadows is honestly not the worst.

[kirazy]

Ok, opinions:

With labels (since the pipes do have tiers, and the underground distance is larger with each tier):


Without labels:


Should I include them? They can be turned off, but are on by default, but not separately from labels for all the regular structures.

(Disregard the duplicate copper pipe, iron pipe wasn't handled properly)

Edit: I'm going to include them but add a separate toggle to allow disabling them for pipes only.

[bobingabout]

Ok, opinions:

With labels (since the pipes do have tiers, and the underground distance is larger with each tier):


Without labels:


Should I include them? They can be turned off, but are on by default, but not separately from labels for all the regular structures.

(Disregard the duplicate copper pipe, iron pipe wasn't handled properly)

Edit: I'm going to include them but add a separate toggle to allow disabling them for pipes only.

Yes, I thing you should include them with a toggle

[kirazy]

The question then becomes, default on or off? xD

[bobingabout]

The question then becomes, default on or off? xD

that would depend on other entities with indicators too. if they all have them by default, then this should be on by default too.

[kirazy]

On it is.

[kirazy]

They're so cute:


Being able to have different icons from the GUI and in-world is so nice:

[kirazy]

Should I label the basic accumulator with a tier?...

[bobingabout]

Should I label the basic accumulator with a tier?...

IIRC... they're still made of T2 materials so in theory they're a T2...
But they're a previous tier than the first bob tier, so, they should be a T1? The first High Capacity is supposed to basically be a direct upgrade from the normal one.

I think, you should go with Materials, and put T2 markings on them.

[kirazy]

I think the remaining question then, is tier 0. ShinyBobGFX has a gray version of tier 1 to show tier 0, whereas I currently omit it:




My preference is to omit it, but I'm also not totally sold that's what I want to do.

[kirazy]

Alright, I need opinions from anyone and everyone who cares. I'm testing different ways to indicate the tiers, and have three candidates:

A:


B:


C:

[bobingabout]

Alright, I need opinions from anyone and everyone who cares. I'm testing different ways to indicate the tiers, and have three candidates:

They all look good.
Probably wouldn't say B, but A is more unique and C is more traditional.

[kirazy]

I've added a method to support user-choice in what the labels should look like with these options:

(The big ones are native resolution, UI scale 200%, or what you see by default on a 4k screen)

I've set Rounded Rectangles as the default.

[bobingabout]

I've added a method to support user-choice in what the labels should look like with these options:

(The big ones are native resolution, UI scale 200%, or what you see by default on a 4k screen)

I've set Rounded Rectangles as the default.

Sounds good to me.

[nastyslave]

So... when this gfx overhaul will out?
Still can't wait))

[bobingabout]

So... when this gfx overhaul will out?
Still can't wait))

I think he's working on the new HD icons that the game just threw at us.

[kirazy]

So... when this gfx overhaul will out?
Still can't wait))

I have to redo the icons (the hi-res ones came out right as I finished them...) and there are a few things that aren't finished yet. I may release it as a beta, just because I want to start getting feedback, and work on it incrementally. Almost everything* is done, just 3-4 structures that don't have a good answer yet, but I can do something quick and dirty in the short term. At least initially it will play nice with ShinyBobGFX (as in you can use them side by side, and ShinyBobGFX will fill in what I haven't hit yet).

So... soon. Maybe mid June. (Maybe July...)

*Everything here means structures. I do plan to hit all the equipment/vehicles eventually, particularly as that's basically just icons, but that's not even close to started.

If I were to list everything I still need/plan to do before I drop a Beta version on the Mod Portal:

• Research Labs (Alien/Basic/Upgraded/Module/Greenhouse) (I have to figure out what I want to do here)
• Fluid Generator/Hydrazine Generator, I have the entity done, I need to make the color masks and icons (an afternoon)
• Belt/Splitter/Underneathie for low-res (easy)
• Implement Burner Electric Generator, the sprite is finished (shadow, light, code, a day)
• Logistic chests, miscellaneous chests, robo chests (easy, but lots of little entities so time consuming; a day or two)
• Charge pads (honestly an afternoon, most of the work is done already)
• Barreling/Compressor machine (I'm working with Youki on these at the moment, almost at a point where we're done)
• In-line and small storage tank (I need to do the sprite for this, but I have what I need to do it, a day, maybe)
• Pipe covers for every material (easy, but tedious and time consuming, an afternoon to a day)
• Electric furnace, chemical furnace, mixing furnace and multi-purpose furnaces (I also have to figure out what I want to do here, this could easily be a day or two)
• Icons for all the structures using the new hi-res icons as a base (this took a while the first time... it may go faster the second time; days, easily a week)
• Distilleries (an afternoon, unless I fix the pipes, then a day, easily)
• Artillery turrets (an hour or two)

Longer term to-do list, after I drop it on the mod portal:

• Train/wagon icons, tank icons, maybe some visual additions to their sprites to differentiate them, but more likely not.
• Plasma turrets
• Heat sources
• Upcoming entities Bob is working on (larger turbines, heat exchangers)
• Personal equipment
• Intermediaries, items like gears, plates, beams

Here's where we're at now: https://i.imgur.com/mUz7WnF.jpg
Everything there needs the icon revisited. Most things need the icon replaced, some things will keep it or only slight tweaks.

At the very least, I will do the icons before I drop it on the portal. I may not finish everything on the first list before I do, but I plan to.

The entities that were giving me the most trouble are all done, though, so it should go smoother from here:

Burner Electric Generator

Just need to make the shadow and light (when the heat flickers) for this, but the entity itself was the hard part.

Fluid Burning Generators

Just need mask and shadows, fairly straight forward from here.

Fluid burning furnaces:

These are done, and were honestly the biggest like... mental block for me. A lot of work, but I'm pleased with the result.

But yeah we're getting close.

[nastyslave]

Oh man all of this graphics... literally outstanding! I'm happy that bobmods have great gfx artist now that reforge all of this.
I wish and ask that this mod will release for us in current state (in beta or something) and have regular updates until finish and receive deserved great feedback and suggestions all this time.

[kirazy]

I'm amenable to this. I will finish icons for everything I have thus far, finish the entities that are in a state of partial completion, and drop a beta. Maybe a week. Maybe less.

[kirazy]

Icon revision is done, so here's the to-do before I drop the beta:

- Finish Burner Electric Generator (edit: done)
- Finish Fluid Generators (edit: done)
- Do Electric Furnaces (I know what I'm going to do now, so it's just a matter of doing it) (edit: these will be a longer project)
- Low-res belts
- Pipe covers (edit: done)

At which point I can drop a beta, so tomorrow or Saturday.