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Does a master flow-chart exist?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:08 am
by Buggi
Has someone made a flowchart to map all inputs and outputs this mod has and which machine they are used and made in?
I know it would be a COMPLETE mess to put everything on one master sheet, but separating them out by end-product would be helpful for those who want to try the mod but feel overwhelmed by the complexity.
So, for example, if you are working on Titanium, have a flow-chart PDF that has the entire crafting chain for Titanium.
If nothing like this exists and is wanted I could work on it. I am striving to be more engaged with the community so I want to help anywhere I can.
Re: Does a master flow-chart exist?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:37 am
by Koub
I personnally use
https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... 134&t=5576
You can have the flowchart for whatever you want, whatever are your mods, which is totally awesome imho
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Re: Does a master flow-chart exist?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:44 am
by bobingabout
I was going to do something like this at one point, but never seem to get around to it.
There is a chart somewhere in this forum that details everything you need to make the basic circuit board, but I'm not sure if it's up to date or not. It's also only for those electronics.
So, the short answer is no. Even I can't remember exactly what comes from where off the top of my head.
Re: Does a master flow-chart exist?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:10 pm
by Buggi
Exactly why something like this would be handy.
If the author can't remember the crafting chains for things, how much hope does a new player have? Make the barrier to entry as easy as possible. Lots of people like figuring this stuff out on the fly, but many others will want some sort of aid if they get stuck.
Re: Does a master flow-chart exist?
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 8:39 am
by bobingabout
That's why a lot of people don't like my new electronics mod, a lot of people see it as "Hard mode" as far as electronics go, because when you start to research anything, there's this huge step up in complexity to make them.
Re: Does a master flow-chart exist?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:54 pm
by Eunomiac
This!
Foreman is
such a great program. You just drag-and-drop to create elegant flowcharts for any kind of production chain, and let the program calculate what you need to set it up. As Koub says, it imports all of the buildings and resources from the mods you have installed, and incorporates them into the flowcharts. It even figures out how quickly you need to produce each item, and recommends the proper number of Assembly Plants (or whatever) to maintain production pace:
It isn't a "master" flowchart, in the sense that it doesn't show
all production processes in a single chart... but that would be so unwieldy as to be useless, even for vanilla Factorio (let alone complex production chains for overhauls like Bobs Mods). Rather, Foreman lets you see exactly what you need---how much and how quickly---to set up efficient, automated production of anything you like.
I can't praise this application enough: In addition to being very, very useful, it's
also a beautiful example of elegant, intuitive design---which makes it very easy to learn. Look at a few more example flowcharts in the forum post linked above, and within ten minutes of tinkering with the program, you'll know all you need to know!
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Re: Does a master flow-chart exist?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:00 am
by Buggi
Yeah, I took a look at the source code for Foreman, pretty efficient coding! Glad they used C#.