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Inconsistency regarding furnace times

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:31 pm
by Jackalope_Gaming
The wiki page for furnaces at https://forums.factorio.com/wiki/inde ... le=Furnace lists the speeds of stone furnaces at 1 and the steel/electric ones at 2. The individual furnace pages also list the furnaces as having those speeds and explicitly say it's 1 item per second for the stone furnace and 2 items per second for the steel and electric ones. However, the products smelted (iron plate, copper plate, and stone bricks) are baseline 3.5 seconds per item in a stone furnace and 1.75 seconds per item in steel and electric furnaces.

Should those numbers be updated to reflect the actual smelting time? Or is there an in-game reason why they're like that such as a calculation done similar to the way miners are handled?

Re: Inconsistency regarding furnace times

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:04 pm
by Chess
The individual pages are wrong but the furnaces article is right. The speed represents the power of the machine, a machine with speed 1 will take 5 seconds to complete a recipe with 5 seconds cost, but a machine with speed 2 will only take 2.5 seconds.

If you check the recipes page for plates or stone bricks you will see the recipe time is 3.5 seconds.

Re: Inconsistency regarding furnace times

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:25 pm
by Jackalope_Gaming
In that case shouldn't there be a note on the furnace pages clarifying what the furnace/crafting speed means?

Re: Inconsistency regarding furnace times

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:03 pm
by ssilk
It's a wiki. Everybody can change it. :)

BTW: There is this page: https://forums.factorio.com/wiki/inde ... ing_drills
which points to https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... =18&t=8370
There is the formula.

Re: Inconsistency regarding furnace times

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:40 am
by emailformygames
ssilk wrote:It's a wiki. Everybody can change it. :)
I've seen you say this quite often on these forums, but due to the fact that people cannot create a wiki account and there seems to be no way to get a forum account to work with the wiki it appears that you would be incorrect. Only select people can currently can edit and update this wiki which is one of the major causes of the old/inaccurate information not being corrected and the old/outdated images not being updated either.

Re: Inconsistency regarding furnace times

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:58 pm
by ssilk
Everybody of the already existing wiki-users can currently edit it.
Better?
No. :) :(

The current state is currently like so.
A bug ticket is created. It will be fixed. I hope ASAP.

On long term every Factorio user will be able to edit. I cannot do any more, than to say: It's a wiki. Sorry, if you don't like it, but the most parts of wiki are community driven and for the devs it is currently low prio.

Normally when the 0.12 is finished they will have time to fix such stuff. But the problem is not escaping, you can come back, when everything is working. ;)

Re: Inconsistency regarding furnace times

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:45 pm
by Grey
Jackielope wrote:The wiki page for furnaces at https://forums.factorio.com/wiki/inde ... le=Furnace lists the speeds of stone furnaces at 1 and the steel/electric ones at 2. The individual furnace pages also list the furnaces as having those speeds and explicitly say it's 1 item per second for the stone furnace and 2 items per second for the steel and electric ones. However, the products smelted (iron plate, copper plate, and stone bricks) are baseline 3.5 seconds per item in a stone furnace and 1.75 seconds per item in steel and electric furnaces.

Should those numbers be updated to reflect the actual smelting time? Or is there an in-game reason why they're like that such as a calculation done similar to the way miners are handled?
Changed all pages of furnaces along with overview page to now specifically show the "Crafting speed", thus relating to the game mechanics.

If interested see here: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8370

To be closed.

Re: Inconsistency regarding furnace times

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:42 pm
by ssilk
:)