Radars are no longer military targets

[Regnizigre]

I don't remember seeing this mentioned anywhere. It's not in the 2.0 patch notes, and after a quick search, none of the 2.0 FFFs mention it.
It makes me wonder what other stealth changes exist in 2.0
In any case, the Radar and Military Targets pages are inaccurate
(I did also just request a wiki account to contribute these changes, but I thought I'd mention it here as well since the change is not mentioned in the patch notes, which is interesting)

[Regnizigre]

Even more interesting, the lua-api site is incorrect? https://lua-api.factorio.com/latest/pro ... otype.html
At the bottom, the is_military_target override is listed as true, but in the in-game ctrl-shift-f menu, it's false.

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[boskid]

Even more interesting, the lua-api site is incorrect? https://lua-api.factorio.com/latest/pro ... otype.html
At the bottom, the is_military_target override is listed as true, but in the in-game ctrl-shift-f menu, it's false.
Screenshot 2024-11-22 205552.png

Nothing interesting, docs say about default values and how they change between types but radar is not using a default, it has value given explicitly on the prototype.

[Regnizigre]

I see, I guess it's just confusing then, that the in-game info shows false, even though it's true. Or am I misinterpreting your response?
To confirm, are radars military targets in 2.0?

[Regnizigre]

I just tested in-game and radars were definitely ignored by nearby biters, which means the in-game info is accurate, and this was changed in 2.0.

However I'm still confused by this on the radar lua-api page

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is_military_target :: bool optional 
Default: true

Is this overridden at runtime then?

[IsaacOscar]

I just tested in-game and radars were definitely ignored by nearby biters, which means the in-game info is accurate, and this was changed in 2.0.

However I'm still confused by this on the radar lua-api page

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is_military_target :: bool optional 
Default: true

Is this overridden at runtime then?

No, it's overriden here: https://github.com/wube/factorio-data/b ... .lua#L2834

[boskid]

Ctrl-shift-f tells the truth as it shows values as they are after loading prototypes.

The only reason why this could be confusing is that in base game there is only one radar defined and we decided to change this using data stage rather than by abusing our ability to change defaults. If by reading lua docs you would learn that RecipePrototype has energy_required default of 0.5, by seeing engine recipe have a different value then would it be confusing or obvious since different recipes can have different crafting times?

[Regnizigre]

I see, that makes sense. Thanks!