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Wiki for modded content

Postby npuldon » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:39 pm

Any plans to added wiki pages for major modded content?

Angels, Bobs, Yuoki, AAI, etc.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby Bilka » Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:28 pm

The official wiki will not include any mod content/wikis.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby olafthecat » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:03 am

You could create your own wiki for modded content on fandom.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby Bilka » Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:58 am

olafthecat wrote:You could create your own wiki for modded content on fandom.


Good luck to whoever tries that. Just a making a wiki just for Bob's mods alone is near impossible because the mod is so modular. Add Angel's to that and you have like 10 ways to make one item depending on the mod configuration. Even with the tools that we use on the official wiki that would be extremely hard to document.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby olafthecat » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:54 am

We ask the mod creators to do it.
They should surely know how their own mods work.
But that is if they want to...I bet there is one somewhere already
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby eradicator » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:10 am

olafthecat wrote:We ask the mod creators to do it.
They should surely know how their own mods work.
But that is if they want to...I bet there is one somewhere already


I can't speak for other mod creators but i'm regularly already short on time trying to make mods at all. I can imagine that anybody who makes anything but small mods simply - as much as they wanted to - wouldn't have the time to also write extensive end-user documentation for it.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby olafthecat » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:52 am

Anybody else?
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby Cribbit » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:17 pm

Bilka wrote:
olafthecat wrote:You could create your own wiki for modded content on fandom.


Good luck to whoever tries that. Just a making a wiki just for Bob's mods alone is near impossible because the mod is so modular. Add Angel's to that and you have like 10 ways to make one item depending on the mod configuration. Even with the tools that we use on the official wiki that would be extremely hard to document.


Which would also be an issue if the pages were put on the main wiki.

Creating their own wiki on fandom is going to be their best solution. Then again, anyone asking someone else to put up a wiki for them likely isn't going to put up a wiki themselves.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby Supercheese » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:32 pm

I prefer creating nice Readme files than wiki content.

Of course, then you have the issue of users not reading (or perhaps not even being aware of) the Readme...!
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby eradicator » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:07 am

Supercheese wrote:I prefer creating nice Readme files than wiki content.

Of course, then you have the issue of users not reading (or perhaps not even being aware of) the Readme...!

I actually clicked that expecting user-relevant info which wasn't even there... Also readmes are not supposed to be manuals. And any files inside a zipped mod has 0% chance of ever been seen by any end-user.

End-Users know exactly two sources of info:
1) In-Game
2) The internet

And even out of those two 80%+ of users are probably never going to bother to spend more than 10 seconds to google something that doesn't work right away. I even know people who actively refuse to use anything but ingame info because they consider it cheating and/or don't want to be spoilered and/or a waste of time if the game-design isn't self-explanatory.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby 5thHorseman » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:23 am

This is basically impossible. If a modder wants to document their mod, more power to them. I'd love it. But I don't expect my free add-on to also come with free documentation,and neither should anybody else.

As to others doing it, that could work but generally people get bored maintaining an ever-changing list of features, especially when they inevitably move on to another mod or game.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby olafthecat » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:15 pm

5thHorseman wrote:This is basically impossible. If a modder wants to document their mod, more power to them. I'd love it. But I don't expect my free add-on to also come with free documentation,and neither should anybody else.

As to others doing it, that could work but generally people get bored maintaining an ever-changing list of features, especially when they inevitably move on to another mod or game.


Ok then, point taken.
Any others?
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby eradicator » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:39 pm

olafthecat wrote:Ok then, point taken.
Any others?


Would you mind stopping to post these "any others?" one-liners. 50% of your posts in this thread alone are of that type, which is very bad netiquette. If anybody else has something to say they will certainly do so without your invitation. And your non-content posts make reading the thread all the more difficult. If you have nothing to say then simply say nothing. Thank you. :roll:
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby bobingabout » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:59 am

olafthecat wrote:We ask the mod creators to do it.
They should surely know how their own mods work.
But that is if they want to...I bet there is one somewhere already

It's hard enough trying to keep the mod up to date, let alone having to keep other sources of information up to date too...

that's basically why I stopped updating the "readme" file in every mod that included all this information, it was too much work.
I ended up just not including the file rather than updating it.
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Re: Wiki for modded content

Postby olafthecat » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:18 pm

bobingabout wrote:
olafthecat wrote:We ask the mod creators to do it.
They should surely know how their own mods work.
But that is if they want to...I bet there is one somewhere already

It's hard enough trying to keep the mod up to date, let alone having to keep other sources of information up to date too...

that's basically why I stopped updating the "readme" file in every mod that included all this information, it was too much work.
I ended up just not including the file rather than updating it.


I haven't played your mod personally GASP :o but I can understand your README issues.
A bit like my wiki metaphors from another topic.
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