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question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:59 pm
by dog80
what is a splitter? it "splits" ....

what does the current "splitter" do... actually: it "branches", e: or "mixes"

a splitter would be more like this?

Image


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this leads to the following:

removing the ability of underground-belts to actually split or more precisely: prevent one half of the belt from working...
--- which i personally would consider as unlogical or unintuitive behaviour... why? because when you have items on a conveyer belt
------- there is no way to actually stop one half of working... ofcourse this is currently not completely avoidable, because of taking from a full belt etc...


well anyways :D just another stupid thought i guess

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:04 pm
by netmand
um, if you're going to be picky, I would have thought you would depict half a belt coming out of each side of your splitter

... or items being split in half after running through it...

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:06 pm
by dog80
netmand wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:04 pm
um, if you're going to be picky, I would have thought you would depict half a belt coming out of each side of your splitter

... or items being split in half after running through it...
however i guess thats also a good idea - its only the problem that you cannot reproduce splitting a lane in 2 half belts, without the underground belt (bug)

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:09 pm
by netmand
oh and if you weren't just making fun of the name, you can filter items through the splitter or configure it to prioritize one side or the other.

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:11 pm
by dog80
netmand wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:09 pm
oh and if you weren't just making fun of the name, you can filter items through the splitter or configure it to prioritize one side or the other.
yes but these functions have nothing to do with my issue... 1s i will explain further

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:17 pm
by dog80
here:

CHALLENGE TIME:::

rebuild this functionality !!!WITHOUT!!! underground-belt

e: and ofcourse without filters...

Image


--- and because this is not possible, the devs will stay with : splitting belts with ug-belts is not a bug
--- but obvously it is because just look at this shit xD

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:20 pm
by Koub
And then you realize than an inserter can not only insert things into a container, but also extract things from containers, and the universe collapses into a singularity.
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Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:22 pm
by dog80
Koub wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:20 pm
And then you realize than an inserter can not only insert things into a container, but also extract things from containers, and the universe collapses into a singularity.
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oh ma gooooooooooooooooooooooood

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:25 pm
by dog80
Koub wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:20 pm
And then you realize than an inserter can not only insert things into a container, but also extract things from containers, and the universe collapses into a singularity.
Image
why not rename it to tentacle

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:26 pm
by Koub
dog80 wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:25 pm
Koub wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:20 pm
And then you realize than an inserter can not only insert things into a container, but also extract things from containers, and the universe collapses into a singularity.
Image
why not rename it to tentacle
Because I've seen enough hentai to know where this would be going :mrgreen:

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:31 pm
by netmand
dog80 wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:17 pm
here:

CHALLENGE TIME:::

rebuild this functionality !!!WITHOUT!!! underground-belt

e: and ofcourse without filters...

Image


--- and because this is not possible, the devs will stay with : splitting belts with ug-belts is not a bug
--- but obvously it is because just look at this shit xD
someone else will answer this i'm sure before i get back from dinner...
and Dame! Yadda! @Koub for the hentai reference

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:40 pm
by 5thHorseman
dog80 wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:17 pm

e: and ofcourse without filters...
Of course, because with filters it's trivial... Which is why you use them in this and many many other situations.

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:41 pm
by BlueTemplar
:P

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:58 pm
by dog80
BlueTemplar wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:41 pm
:P
not bad but still not 100% reliant

+ this just looks like replacing one bug with another - wouldnt the item get pushed to the other side by the other...

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:09 pm
by Light
dog80 wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:58 pm
BlueTemplar wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:41 pm
:P
not bad but still not 100% reliant
Sure it is. Just keep the inputs from starving and it won't go wrong.

Koub wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:26 pm
dog80 wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:25 pm
Koub wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:20 pm
And then you realize than an inserter can not only insert things into a container, but also extract things from containers, and the universe collapses into a singularity.
Image
why not rename it to tentacle
Because I've seen enough hentai to know where this would be going :mrgreen:
I'm sure it's on Rule 34. I've been there long enough to know nothing is sacred, even anomalies in space.

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:16 pm
by 5thHorseman
dog80 wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:58 pm
+ this just looks like replacing one bug with another - wouldnt the item get pushed to the other side by the other...
...not to mention the bug where stuff never falls off the side of the belt.

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:30 pm
by disentius
:mrgreen:
spit!.gif
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Re: question about splitter

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:44 pm
by boskid
split-lanes-without-ub.png
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:D
-- edit:
Lets complicate stuff a little:
lane-exchange-with-filter-spliter.png
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Re: question about splitter

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:10 pm
by Trebor
Koub wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:20 pm
And then you realize than an inserter can not only insert things into a container, but also extract things from containers, and the universe collapses into a singularity.
Image
The only way for an inserter to hold an item is to extract it from something, be it a belt, container or assembler etc. Every use of an inserter involves both an extract and an insert. Calling it an extractor would be both just as accurate and just as wrong. What would you prefer to call it?

Re: question about splitter

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:21 pm
by slippycheeze
Trebor wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:10 pm
Koub wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:20 pm
And then you realize than an inserter can not only insert things into a container, but also extract things from containers, and the universe collapses into a singularity.
Image
The only way for an inserter to hold an item is to extract it from something, be it a belt, container or assembler etc. Every use of an inserter involves both an extract and an insert. Calling it an extractor would be both just as accurate and just as wrong. What would you prefer to call it?
Thing put-inner five.