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I find a big.... I mean ocean for my factory land so I need to close it.

Landfill

subzeros wrote:Landfill

This + Bots. Just setup a few assemblers, blueprint it and let you bots do the work.

You can change the size of how much you fill with one click by pressing + and - on the numpad. (You can change that in the settings.)
I didn't knew that, and filling a big lake with 2x2 landfill takes ages...

Mojo wrote:

subzeros wrote:Landfill

This + Bots. Just setup a few assemblers, blueprint it and let you bots do the work.

You can blueprint landfill?

Only with a mod, I think.

Jap2.0 wrote:You can blueprint landfill?

It used to be possible to do that, but the devs changed it because they don't want you to abuse landfills or something like that.

subzeros wrote:Landfill

yesi know, but i want to automate it.

Hellatze wrote:

subzeros wrote:Landfill

yesi know, but i want to automate it.

Not possible currently without mods. Like I wrote above, the developers disabled the feature on purpose a few months back.

MeduSalem wrote:

Jap2.0 wrote:You can blueprint landfill?

It used to be possible to do that, but the devs changed it because they don't want you to abuse landfills or something like that.

how ?

Hellatze wrote:

MeduSalem wrote:It used to be possible to do that, but the devs changed it because they don't want you to abuse landfills or something like that.

how ?

Because then you can easily build a fortress on an artificial island with limited access and you don't have to deal with Biters at all... and that's not really the intention of the developers.

In their point of view landfills should only be used to overcome situations where the map generator worked in disadvantage to the player... like for example starting on an isolated island with limited resoures and no connection to the main continent and similar situations.

MeduSalem wrote:

Hellatze wrote:

MeduSalem wrote:It used to be possible to do that, but the devs changed it because they don't want you to abuse landfills or something like that.

how ?

Because then you can easily build a fortress on an artificial island with limited access and you don't have to deal with Biters at all... and that's not really the intention of the developers.

In their point of view landfills should only be used to overcome situations where the map generator worked in disadvantage to the player... like for example starting on an isolated island with limited resoures and no connection to the main continent and similar situations.

i still can do that. by simply carefully placed landfill

Hellatze wrote:i still can do that. by simply carefully placed landfill

Yeah, I didn't judge their decision, merely pointed out that they did it for that "reason".

If you want to know my opinion on the matter I find it stupid that they disabled it... because with enough patience one can build artificials islands it manually.

So they only really made the inevitable harder for players.

I would have thought it would just have been better to make some aliens that can traverse water, to be honest.

Imagine them suddenly popping up behind your moat...

Three things to mention:

1) landfill using 1x1 size uses less than 2x2 size or larger. You get free land when you place a 1x1 landfill slightly off shore.

2) If you are willing to waste the landfill then using a large LxL size makes it quite fast. You can just hold down the mouse button and run along the coast. Maybe even drive a car and landfill (haven't tried that one).

3) If the developers didn't want us to build islands then why not have shallow and deep water where only the shallow water can be filled in? So you could landfill to shrink the water somewhat but not build in the middle of the lake.

MeduSalem wrote:

Jap2.0 wrote:You can blueprint landfill?

It used to be possible to do that, but the devs changed it because they don't want you to abuse landfills or something like that.

The reason they disabled it is because it was bugged. The bots left holes and landfill blueprints remained on land. They said maybe in the future they'll make landfill blueprintable again.

We need our automayed landfill back.

I think it's the alien biomes or waterfix mods that allow you to blueprint landfill. The former depends on the latter.

Having deeper water that can't be landfilled is a neat idea