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0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:13 pm
by npuldon
Some guy: "Hey! Wouldn't it be AWESOME if the devs pre-released 0.15(at least as it is now, pre-launch) to the major mod makers (Angels, Bobs, Yuoki, AAI) so they can prep their updates ahead of time...

The Entire Factorio Player Base: "Yeah, you know, that would be great!"



-2 cents

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:59 pm
by quinor
You know that at first .15 will be released as experimental release with multiple bugs, right?

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:02 pm
by npuldon
Yes, but I would deem such bugs quite minor by this point. Bugs are found very quickly in this game and fixed very quickly thanks to the great dev team.

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:46 pm
by DaveMcW
0.15.0 is the mod maker's prerelease. If you like mods, you should wait for 0.15.1.

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:59 pm
by Mehve
npuldon wrote:Yes, but I would deem such bugs quite minor by this point. Bugs are found very quickly in this game and fixed very quickly thanks to the great dev team.
They are, but that doesn't stop people from losing their cookies over the bugs that inconvenience them, EA/beta or not. The headaches and potential bad press involved with one spoiled internet warrior/brat whining over a bug is definitely not worth any goodwill it might engender. We've already got posts from people complaining about the 0.15 "delay", as though 0.14 is somehow vastly inferior and not worth playing fully.

Not sure it would really matter, to be honest. I'm pretty sure I recall a post by Bob estimating months before his mod was made fully 0.15 compatible? Besides, I suspect the more people playing vanilla 0.15 at the beginning, the better for bug hunting/fixing, since there are fewer variables to account for.

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:12 am
by ftbreizhbugs
I am quite disappointed that most people dont play the vanilla factorio: its hard to find a good Youtube let's play that doesnt use bob/angels mod...

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:15 pm
by aober93
Wouldnt it be better if 0.15 was tested first, and then modded? I wouldnt wanna mod a funked up version of a game that nobody knows is either balanced or bugged or generally is in no definitive state. Unless you are the guy that is always the first to mod just for the sake of being the first to mod. These mods are shit anyway fyi

Most mods that will appear fast will likely be those adapted from 0.14 anyway.
ftbreizhbugs wrote:I am quite disappointed that most people dont play the vanilla factorio: its hard to find a good Youtube let's play that doesnt use bob/angels mod...
Like if bob and angels changes anything at all besides some little textures. Some plays are with infinite power now thats a change, but not really much either if you think about it.

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:30 pm
by Supercheese
DaveMcW wrote:0.15.0 is the mod maker's prerelease. If you like mods, you should wait for 0.15.1.
Precisely. Besides, there have already been helpful dev posts regarding new 0.15 API content, which has been helpful even before any playtesting can happen.

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:54 pm
by Nilaus
ftbreizhbugs wrote:I am quite disappointed that most people dont play the vanilla factorio: its hard to find a good Youtube let's play that doesnt use bob/angels mod...
Don't worry about that. There will be a ton of YouTube Vanilla 0.15 lets plays next week (present company included) :)

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:05 pm
by ftbreizhbugs
Nilaus wrote:
ftbreizhbugs wrote:I am quite disappointed that most people dont play the vanilla factorio: its hard to find a good Youtube let's play that doesnt use bob/angels mod...
Don't worry about that. There will be a ton of YouTube Vanilla 0.15 lets plays next week (present company included) :)
Hope so,
gonna watch your lets play ;)

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:59 am
by SaintFlow
npuldon wrote:Some guy: "Hey! Wouldn't it be AWESOME if the devs pre-released 0.15(at least as it is now, pre-launch) to the major mod makers (Angels, Bobs, Yuoki, AAI) so they can prep their updates ahead of time...

The Entire Factorio Player Base: "Yeah, you know, that would be great!"



-2 cents
That.

And to all the naysayers: you don't have to be opposing EVERYTHING the devs don't do. What he asked for is a reasonable and nice idea and there is absolutely NOTHING BAD for you if it would be done. Don't get why people oppose things which have no negative outcome for them whatsoever :?

Re: 0.15 pre-release to major mod makers!

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:44 am
by Mehve
Since we seem to be looking at a Tuesday release, it's largely a moot point now, but every single "naysayer" in this thread offered a reason/perspective on why it wouldn't be practical or a preferred route. The major mods were never going to be ready for 15.0. I expect we'll be lucky to start getting them by 15.1 or 15.2. As I said above, I can recall posts suggesting the transition could take weeks or months for the big mods. I can't see a whole lot of value in expecting the mod makers to muck around with non-release builds, and why distract the developers at this point?

And despite the enthusiasm for this game, this forum is hardly filled with sycophants. There's an idea/suggestion subforum with nearly 5000 ideas, the majority of which represent alternate visions of this game from what the developers seem to be envisioning. There's already nitpicking on the latest FFF about the new release, and we haven't even got it yet! :)