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What is the absolute minimum number of player crafted items?

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I was thinking... which is a bad idea, but.

What is the absolute minimum number of things that the player has to create, after which, one can force one's self to use only assemblers in sort of a super hard mode.

and when i mean minimum, i mean minimum minimum.

Like.

One offshore pump, one boiler, one steam engine, one electric pole, one lab, 10 red beakers, one assembling machine one, which later must be upgraded to lv 2.

anything else?

It seems that one is forced to craft oil refineries and power armor lv 2... because they both require 5 ingredients. It surprises me that assembler lv 3 cant make them... which is a bummer, because it means you cant create a self-replicating factory. :(

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pbhead wrote:It seems that one is forced to craft oil refineries and power armor lv 2... because they both require 5 ingredients. It surprises me that assembler lv 3 cant make them... which is a bummer, because it means you cant create a self-replicating factory. :(
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I have begun a game of absolute minimum player crafting.

And let me tell you. Mining stuff without an axe, is quite hard.

Starting, with my initial burner and furnace, I am mining coal, using the furnace as a box for the coal.

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This is going to take a while. hehe.

current crafting count: 0

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So. still working on collecting resources.

Since the steam engine's boiler will require my stone furnace, it is important that I collect all the resources to research and build the first automation machine before I build the steam engine, as no stone furnace will mean no more copper and iron plates until I can build another one in the assembler.

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Current crafting count: 0

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Time to make that first factory!

steam engine, boiler, lab, telephone pole,

Thats, 5 gears, 5 piles for the engine, one pipe (and my furnace) for the boiler, 8 for for the pump.
21 crafts.
The lab takes an amazing 40 crafts, 12 for gears, 2 for belts, 15 for wire, 10 for circuits, and one for the lab itself.
3 crafts for the pole.

20 crafts for the 10 red packs.

So

Total craft count: 44.

researching automation!

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5 gears, 5 wires and 3 circuits for the lab, for a total of 14 crafts.

and now i can make myself a box! and an AXE! YAY!

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YAY! AXE!

but still stuck on one miner, because both burner miners and electric miners need 3 parts.

so... time to save up resources for automation 2! 110 beakers to go.

Total craft count: 58

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And straight on to automation 2!

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And, by making a few gears, wires, and circuits in my assembler, I can do what will probably be the second to last human craft, to upgrade my assembler into an assembler lv 2!

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And with that I can now build basic Inserters! (had burner inserters)

And more assembling machines!

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(I heard you like assemblers, so i build an assembler in your assembler so you can build even more assemblers)

And now things are very similar to a regular game, with the extreme incentive to get absolutely everything automated, because switching all the assemblers around to different settings every 5 seconds is quite annoying.

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Now. It is time to expand!

More fire! More Metal! More Power! More Steam!

Total crafting count: 59

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I think it is an interesting type of gameplay to be able to craft only the absolute minimum needed items. It could be an idea to have automated checks if you are now in such a dead end and crafting that item is enabled. A mod or so...
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are refineries still take 5 components to assemble?
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yeah no patch 0.9.9 yet. keep patient.

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Arumba just started a new Lets Play with this sort of restriction. He is doing it a little bit different, but I forgive him. It was me who originally suggested the Idea to him on a stream quite a long time ago, so I am really pumped that he is doing it now!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlAqt5fTNh8

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Hello,
I've been watching a youtuber called MangledPorkGaming playing with this type of "gamemode" on.
It is actually pretty entertaining to watch, he is on episode 15 or so and is playing exactly as mentioned in this topic, unlike Arumba.
Thank you for your time, if interested you should look at his content!
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Have a link? id love to check it out.

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Here is the dude's youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwTLrd ... BZ3Z0kzX0g
And here is his no-crafting playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTszEGC ... O2iFeo_WIp

Hope you enjoy!
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Ah, yeah, that's Bentham. I watched some of his Factorio stuff, and I like his recording style.
He first records the session, then plays it at twice the speed and explains what he is doing from the off. You really see some progress in those twenty minutes videos.

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So at my rate of 2 videos a week it took me quite a while, but I finally finished my no crafting playthrough by building rocket defence yesterday. It took 23 hours across 69 episodes and you can watch it Here.

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I'm playing a mod that implements this kind of restrictions: https://forums.factorio.com/forum/vie ... 87&t=12379 Having to automate everything is loads of fun!

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pbhead wrote:Time to make that first factory!

steam engine, boiler, lab, telephone pole,

Thats, 5 gears, 5 piles for the engine, one pipe (and my furnace) for the boiler, 8 for for the pump.
21 crafts.
The lab takes an amazing 40 crafts, 12 for gears, 2 for belts, 15 for wire, 10 for circuits, and one for the lab itself.
3 crafts for the pole.

20 crafts for the 10 red packs.

So

Total craft count: 44.
By my count that's 84 crafts
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If the player also starts with a single mk 1 crafting machine, how many manual crafts would it be?

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