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Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 5:18 am
by Tias
I could never find the perfect Blue Belt/Elsectric Furnace ratio, so I tested it.
It requires 61 Electric/Steal Furnaces (or 122 Stone Furnaces), to completly smelt all the ore on a completly saturated blue belt.

Re: Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:22 am
by TN_Creator
thanks :D

so 30 on each side? or a length of 61 with furnaces on both sides? but taht would make a lot of furnaces :D

Re: Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:23 am
by Don_Camillo
it's actually more, you need about 72 of steel/electric furnaces
https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... ce_ratios/
maybe you had the furnace buffer full

Re: Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 6:58 pm
by Blurb
Gleaning the wiki, it's learned that a blue belt can transport 40 items per second (throughput, T).
Knowing that it takes 1.75 seconds for an electrical or steel furnace to process a piece of ore, we get 1/1.75 ore per second per furnace (production, P).
To process 40 ore per second, you would need 70 (= T/P) furnaces.

Going by dimensional analysis, this approach should be correct.


TN_Creator wrote:thanks :D

so 30 on each side? or a length of 61 with furnaces on both sides? but taht would make a lot of furnaces :D
It does not matter how the furnaces are arranged.

Re: Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:26 pm
by Peppe
Tias wrote:I could never find the perfect Blue Belt/Elsectric Furnace ratio, so I tested it.
It requires 61 Electric/Steal Furnaces (or 122 Stone Furnaces), to completly smelt all the ore on a completly saturated blue belt.
If you are only getting 61 you probably have a bottle neck somewhere in your system or are not compressing the blue belt.

I usually build 72, but technically 71 should be mathematically enough/correct.

Re: Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:38 am
by Swadius
I found that when I put the iron plates directly from the furnaces to the blue belt, the inserters would space them out a bit too much and the result would be the final furnaces near the iron output end are unable to unload properly. 36-48 is the max if you're using blue/green inserters directly onto the blue belt. Otherwise you're going to have to find a way to compress the iron as it comes onto the blue belt.

Re: Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:48 am
by silverkitty23
Swadius wrote:Otherwise you're going to have to find a way to compress the iron as it comes onto the blue belt.
this is only way I know of (36 furnaces on each side should compress it, if you can keep the ore coming)
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I'm not sure what the numbers are if you put PM3s on the furnaces and SM3s in bacons in rows beside the furnaces - presumably less than 36 on each side, but I don't know how much less.

Re: Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 11:13 am
by Swadius
Is there a reason the inserters are not directly putting them into the splitters?

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Re: Blue Belt to Furnace Ratio

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:22 pm
by silverkitty23
Probably not, I just don't personally like pointing inserters at/against turns, splitters, or undergrounds entrances/exits; but I think that's just an aesthetic preference. (I could be wrong, though - there might be a real difference)