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After upgrade all the tech, setup all kinds of factory for auto produce items,
made a turret base near a big alien base, created a remote mining base with train station,
I found nothing to do now, looks like fun is over, any idea?

How about this: make 1000 rocket defences

luarvic wrote:How about this: make 1000 rocket defences

This has no meaning.. not fun.

halida wrote:

luarvic wrote:How about this: make 1000 rocket defences

This has no meaning.. not fun.

What would be fun?

halida wrote:

luarvic wrote:How about this: make 1000 rocket defences

This has no meaning.. not fun.

You've kind of defined your own problem, you need to create your own fun at this point. If you are incapable of doing that then yes, the game is no longer going to be fun for you. Go find another game to play until this one has more stuff to do. If you need a driven purpose to enjoy the game, and you've done it all. Game over. Not trying to be rude, it's just the truth. Most games have an end, this game can be open ended if you aren't goal driven. But it isn't minecraft, if you need those goals you are going to struggle after you've done 'it all'.

Congratulations, you won the game?

You can continue playing and see how big you can go, how many aliens you can purge, and how many natural resources you can exploit before it all collapses under its own weight. Grow a base to an empire, population: 1.
Or, you can start a new game, start from scratch, and see if you can win better, faster, more efficiently, perhaps under more difficult circumstances.

MODS!!!

Try F-mod
Dysoch mod
Industrio

Currently I try to make a path in direction east. It's now about 5000 tiles (25 radar length), I take by train about 3-4 (?) minutes to come to that point. I need masses of weapons, because the nests get bigger and bigger. A nest with 1000 biters is nothing special. It is absolutely impossible to fight them without laser towers. I normally place 50-100 lasers at once and try to kick out all the spawners.
Well, I think a bit boring, despite from the logistic I need to support me with all the stuff I need, which is quite complicated over such long distances without signaling, what's really needed (perhaps I lay a smart wire), but what overwhelms me every time is the gigantic landscape. A lake which needs 1 minute to drive thru... A big forest. With the new biomes this looks overwhelming real.

I mean factorio should go more outside.

ssilk wrote:Currently I try to make a path in direction east. It's now about 5000 tiles (25 radar length), I take by train about 3-4 (?) minutes to come to that point. I need masses of weapons, because the nests get bigger and bigger. A nest with 1000 biters is nothing special. It is absolutely impossible to fight them without laser towers. I normally place 50-100 lasers at once and try to kick out all the spawners.
Well, I think a bit boring, despite from the logistic I need to support me with all the stuff I need, which is quite complicated over such long distances without signaling, what's really needed (perhaps I lay a smart wire), but what overwhelms me every time is the gigantic landscape. A lake which needs 1 minute to drive thru... A big forest. With the new biomes this looks overwhelming real.

I mean factorio should go more outside.

I've had a few comments and threads about being generally imprisoned in your starting area, especially on straight medium settings. The two big things I'm going to be looking for in the coming releases will be new-game starting-point standards and a tempering of spawners and worms so that expansion is more viable/encouraged in the early and early-mid game. Even without viable factory modules (now nerfed to oblivion), replay is rapidly declining simply 'cause I can't be bothered re-generating maps 5-10 times 'till I find one that is acceptible for starting the actual gameplay. The game generates a huge world to explore, claim, and generally establish borders with the Biters... but it's really not how the game plays.

I may never actually finish a map, as something of a pathological restarter. I get up to around the point of trains/logistic bots, get bored, go through the terrible experience of trying to fight biters/worms, get frustrated, and start over again. Right around the time I have to contend with the neighbors, I find the process a gruelling experience of what I'd become accustomed to as 'bad play' in other, similar games where there's an external threat that needs to be combatted. Turtling and offensive towering, specifically, i'm calling out as 'not fun' in an otherwise excellent and fun 'home game'.

Well, what I currently see is exactly this game after - let's say - locomotive. The locomotive only enables to create something far, far away.
What disturbs here is the pure number of villages. When I look on the map of that part everything is red. This is quite unnatural. A natural looking spread of native villages would be, that there are "center villages" and all other are expanding more or less concentric from that point. Which means, there are some big, big areas, which are completely free from biters. And other, smaller areas, which are condensed with nests. Look at a map and try to show only the streets and cities. This looks natural. The current random setup of biter villages not.

Given, that the villages are spreaded like that, we need also, that the resources are also much more spreaded. It would make sense to have large fields of resources, but only one or two sorts of resources atone point. But far away. 1 minute by train. This enables a completely new gameplay: you suddenly have enough resources (before you always had too less) and now the game is to bring all together, make it stable, and bring it to the needed places.

What we need for that is a kind of high range radar, or some type of explorer bot, which can explore up to 1000 tiles in one direction. We need that to find the resources. They may be far, far away.

If you've beaten the freeplay mode, try the challenge scenarios and campaigns. Or make up your own challenges. Start a map with low/low/low copper deposits and see how your strategies change.

ssilk wrote:What we need for that is a kind of high range radar, or some type of explorer bot, which can explore up to 1000 tiles in one direction. We need that to find the resources. They may be far, far away.

LOVE THE IDEA!!!!
Automated explorer that has X hp, and goes on and on in a straight line untill it dies or runs out of battery... that would be awesome!!

Oh, and I've forgotten to add: we need something, which gives the "about direction" of the resources. Something like a detonator scanner: we need to dig some dynamite into the ground, connect all holes together (red or green wire) and they explode at the same time, when I give the right signal. A scanner reads the explosions and the echos and can say "there is something.

The first implementation could be just reveal randomly resources. But in a iteration I would like a simulation: how the explosions run through the stone and are reflected by the resources. Depending of angle, distance and number of explosions it is more or less exact. A good example is EVE online, which uses the same principle.

In the end I use that to know the about direction(s) where I need to explore.

DRBLN wrote:MODS!!!

Try F-mod
Dysoch mod
Industrio

Yes! mod is fun, and good supplementation for the game. I like DyTech. (without hard bitters..)

Summarize some way to make more fun after you "win":

- from DRBLN: using MODS!
- from ssilk: go through one direction, see how far you can get.
- from Zourin: imprisoned in your starting area.
- from sparr: Start a map with low/low/low copper deposits.

Maybe we can create a wiki page about this?

halida wrote:Maybe we can create a wiki page about this?

Hopefully the devs will give us a way to share map generation settings/seeds soon. Then that wiki page could include a single copy-able string of game settings and random seed, so that people could play challenges with the exact same map (similar to how the supply challenge scenario works now).

You could start a 'deathworld' game. Normal/very big/very rich biters. Everything else normal. Goodluck. ;p

and don't forget speed runs, trying to win ASAP!