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Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:54 pm
by eradicator
DaveMcW wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:41 pm
eradicator wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:00 am
And if drain is even calculated seperatedly at all it is probably consumed before dynamic consumption
Nope. Test it with 2 assembling-machine-2 and 5 solar panels, they run at full speed and don't pay any drain.
Yes. Tested it with one AM3 and an EEI producing 6458J/t (i.e 387.48kW) and the tooltip gets a yellow energy bar. Projected consumption of AM3 is 375+12.5=387.5, thus in my test drain is required for 100% production. At 6459J/t (i.e. +1J/t) the bar turns green as expected.

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Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:58 pm
by DaveMcW
The energy bar is a lie, look at production speed.

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:05 pm
by eradicator
DaveMcW wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:58 pm
The energy bar is a lie, look at production speed.
Well meh. It even says "low power" in the status. But according to the statistics produces at full speed with 6250J/t. If i was in the mood i'd post a bugreport.

Gonna be more difficult to harvest this for inserters with their wavy consumption though.

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:03 pm
by nog
We could sky rocket the challenge by using nuclear fuel, we should reach about 8.3 GW (quick and dirty calculations, including drills consumption and everything intermediate) but with an insane amount of centrifuge to produce as much as 548.26 nuclear fuel per minute.

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:58 pm
by TruePikachu
How are you going to do that without a uranium input though?

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:28 am
by nog
Is uranium forbidden ?

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:31 am
by astroshak
vanatteveldt wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:40 pm
- you're allowed to use any number of buildings, modules, etc. You can use other items (e.g. heavy oil) as a catalyst, but cannot require a supply.
This would suggest that no, Uranium is not allowed.

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:30 pm
by Cribbit
astroshak wrote:
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:31 am
vanatteveldt wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:40 pm
- you're allowed to use any number of buildings, modules, etc. You can use other items (e.g. heavy oil) as a catalyst, but cannot require a supply.
This would suggest that no, Uranium is not allowed.
- creative mode: you get one matter source of coal, as many water fluid sources as you want
So does this

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:13 pm
by nog
Hmm hmm, correct.

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:16 am
by DaveMcW
DaveMcW wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:14 am
Beacon bonus shrinks smoothly as power decreases.
I was wrong, it is possible to save energy and keep the full beacon bonus, if you turn off power when they aren't watching.
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=82236

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:23 pm
by bobucles
DaveMcW wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 2:16 am
DaveMcW wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:14 am
Beacon bonus shrinks smoothly as power decreases.
I was wrong, it is possible to save energy and keep the full beacon bonus, if you turn off power when they aren't watching.
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=82236
Absolutely devilish. But how do you synchronize the beacon power system with the game UPS clock?

Re: Challenge: maximum net energy from a blue belt of coal

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:09 pm
by DaveMcW
Beacons don't use a global game clock, they have their own clock that starts when they are constructed.